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Old 26th June 2003, 06:40 PM
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Dale Earnhardt, Jr. and the Evil of the 700 Club.

I will be the first to admit I was far from being a Dale Earnhardt fan, nor do I feel he's a national hero. But I certainly feel bad for anybody who loses a loved one as Dale Earnhardt, Jr did. I feel even worse when Christians use a personal disaster to their advantage. Maybe you've heard about this.

Dale Earnhardt, Jr has been declining to do interviews since his father's death, rightfully so, after all it was his dad, let private things remain private. He had never planned an "exclusive" interview regarding his dad's death, to anybody. He did consent to speak on the NASCAR chaplain's advice for a small special on the 700 Club. The piece was about the NASCAR chaplain, and it was just going to have a small sound bite from Dale Earnhardt, Jr... so he thought.

The CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network, Pat Robertson's network to push propaganda on) crews came and set up for the interview. Once the tape was rolling, they ambushed Dale Earnhardt, Jr into a full out interview about his father. Dale was afraid of looking bad, so he answered question after question, questions he never wanted to answer for anyone. If this wasn't enough, after the ambush, the interviewer opened up a bag of Dale Earnhardt, Jr products for Dale to sign, which he did in fear of looking bad.

When the segment aired, it was an exclusive interview with Dale Earnhardt, Jr... there was brief mention of the chaplain, but only in passing. In fact, on the front page of the 700 Club homepage (I refuse to link them) it reads and I quote "EXCLUSIVE Dale Earnhardt Jr. Interview Dale reveals how the death of his father has changed him completely". When you read the interview, Dale Beaver (the chaplain) is mentioned once. It fails to mention how Scott Ross (the interviewer) got this exclusive through blackmail and flat out lies.

His utter disrespect for fellow humans just shows what the entire CBN is all about. Lies, deception, corruption, and greed. He can deny it until he's blue in the face, but it just shows that EVERYTHING he has his hands in is corrupt, fraudulent, and is in need of serious investigation. I hope Dale Earnhardt Jr forgets about how he looks long enough to sue Pat Robertson into a cardboard box.

A Little Bit More about the 700 Club


Have you ever wondered what the 700 club is? It sounds like a nice club, like the Volkswagen club, or a bridge club, right? Well, it's not like that, you don't need any special interests, skills, or cars... heck you don't even need to be Christian to be in the 700 club. All you need is $20 per month.

There are other clubs too... the 700 Club is the most known because it cheapest... the others are as follows:


The 700 Club Gold, this one costs twice as much as the plain 700 club, $40/$480.
The 1000 Club, a steal at $84 per month, or $1,000 per year.
The 2500 Club, a bargain at $209 per month, or $2,500 per year
The Founder's Club, same price as a new fully loaded car, $417 per month, $5,000 per year.
The funny thing is this, there is no mention of anything that you get in return. You just get to say you're a member... no cards, no swimsuit issue, not even a lava lamp.

Still have money left over, well for $10,000 per year (only $834 per month) you can become part of the Chairman's Circle. For $10,000, you get: A monthly conference call with Pat Robertson (maybe a "sound alike" we've already established the integrity of this organization).
A monthly personal prayer call. Whatever that is, no details are given... better be a call from God for $10,000.
Monthly series of audio tapes. That's right, not even CDs. I bet that's what $20,000 per year would get you.
Monthly newsletter, whoop-dee-do. GI Joe has one of those... and it's free.
A pin. Wow.



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just an article i read from this site.. www.biblebabble.com

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Old 26th June 2003, 07:48 PM
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What is the question regarding Philosophy or Morality? Could you be more specific in what you're asking or is this an attempt to make people admit they donate to the 700 Club so they can be ridiculed?
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Originally Posted by blindfaith
What is the question regarding Philosophy or Morality? Could you be more specific in what you're asking or is this an attempt to make people admit they donate to the 700 Club so they can be ridiculed?
true. maybe it should be in apologetics. maybe it should be in a general "lounge" area, one open for topics that dont really fit in any specific area. and maybe calling people morons if tey send money to these people is rude. i will edit that out. It has always been obvious to me that televangelists are mostly crooks. wondering why it isnt obvious to everyone i guess. and askin if anyone sends money to these wacks was meant playfully. wasnt planning on attacking em. but i do think it is worthy of discussion. Do you sendmoney to the 700 club or any other televangelists? if so, are you sure that is wise, and it is going to the right cause?
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Old 26th June 2003, 08:55 PM
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No, I do not.

I sponser 4 kids through World Vision instead and help those who need it.

But, if people choose to send their money to the 700 club, it's their business to do so, even if it doesn't seem wise.

God can do wonders through anything - including the use of tv evangelists.
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lol.....sorry amy i just read your post and boy are you on a roll today!

Hmmm, touchy touchy subject. Although I agree with you - I also agree with Blindfaith as well. Do you feel better though since you got that out of your system? Sorry, I know it's not funny but I can just picture you sitting in my living room ranting about it......
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WOW!! I was actually pretty amazed when I read this thread as up until recently when the kiddies came out of school and took over my tv i watched the 700 club everyday. I somehow missed that interview with Dale jr. though ( cause as some of you know he is just my fave in Nascar!!!) I guess I never looked at it as an evil thing to be watching. It was somehting on Christianity which you don't come across on tv much these days. But it sounds like a public apology to Dale jr. would be in order seeing as how they handled the whole interview. (and by the way---no i don't send money to them either)
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Originally Posted by blindfaith
God can do wonders through anything - including the use of tv evangelists.
but the people working in his name should be a little more godly. and they are found out and still supported, it sickens me. but god forbid two loving men want to share a life. they can screw people (figuratively) and be dishonest all they want..but god forbid they practice love.
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Yes I agree - they should be Godly but IMO they are not - others would disagree. However, I do know speaking from experience that those Un-Godly people whatever they're intentions were have helped me through some rough times. I am well aware of the lying, deceit etc. that goes on behind the scenes. Fortunately for me, I was able to take what I needed and leave the rest. I do not support any of these clubs etc. but if people want to -it's their prerogative. I worked in a christian bookstore which I will not name but if you could have seen what went on behind the scenes - it would really make you sick to your stomach - BUT there was good that came out of that store as well. God can use everyone, no matter what the intentions may be. Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents. I know that Angel75 post sounded harsh to others but knowing her personally, i can honestly say that her post was written outta frustration and it's a frustration that I can relate to.
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I think we all can be a little more Godly And I'll put myself at the top of the list folks - I'm not exempt.

But as far as posts are concerned, you gotta read what you put in, even if it's from a link.

'Nuff said.
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I've never been into Dale Earnhardt, but I watch the 700 club rabidly. It's rather amusing to watch Pat Robertson get worked up about things. From reading your post, that doesn't sound right or fair to encourage Dale Jr. to talk about his dead father, but then again, I'm sure he could have refused the interview. It doesn't look bad to avoid talking about dead loved ones, it just looks like you aren't interested in discussing personal life. Then again, such is the price of fame.
The 700 club and all of those televangelism clubs and programs don't seem to be doing much good. I don't respect Pat Robertson, just because of his militant homophobia and his post September 11th comments. I think he is more interested in espousing his own views then sharing religion, and since his views are extreme he drives people away from his religion. Being agnostic, I mostly watch the show just to make fun.
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