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17th December 2006, 09:15 AM
| | simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
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like in G.rm.ny, did you know the doctors there are allowed to cure leukemia with vitamins and minerals. No toxicity and very low cost. Takes a few weeks. Not legal for doctors in the usa because "it can't be patented" (that's their own words, their own reason)
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18th December 2006, 09:05 AM
| | for the things which God has said 43 
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Reps: 601 (power: 0) | | | Read the whole letter. It is clear that those brothers and sisters (in 1992) did not attempt to find out the nature of the songs being sung, and were speaking out of prejudice and ignorance. I am sure things are different now; I have read very different reports from more recently. | 
18th December 2006, 02:33 PM
| | simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
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__________________ if you find someone who is honest,
like in G.rm.ny, did you know the doctors there are allowed to cure leukemia with vitamins and minerals. No toxicity and very low cost. Takes a few weeks. Not legal for doctors in the usa because "it can't be patented" (that's their own words, their own reason)
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19th December 2006, 09:00 AM
| | for the things which God has said 43 
| | Join Date: 28th November 2005 Location: Topeka, Kansas, USA
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Reps: 601 (power: 0) | | | Well, it's certainly true that lots of missionaries have done harm. Samuel Clemens wrote about many of them in some of his oft-suppressed writings; they were spreading USAmerican dominationalism and calling it Christ. Which is, of course, what so many of the churches in the USA have also been doing, and are still doing today.
In fact, one of the happiest things for me in the world today, is to see that the Lord is decreasingly allowing those that kill for carnal freedom, to call armies of death-mongers with the name of His Son. He is allowing less and less fakery; He is giving less and less power to false ones who steal His name for their flesh.
But I thoroughly agree, we will hear more evil than good from this world. The world lies in its sin; it is not a very good transmittor of truth or goodness. There is only one very good transmittor of truth and goodness, and that is God.
I think that the only way we will learn about truths and goodnesses done in the name of God, is by seeking them, asking the Lord to show them to us, and being willing to be shown. And unless I am mistaken, there is a ring of a certain statement of the Lamb of God in this thinking. | 
20th December 2006, 02:53 AM
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22nd December 2006, 10:54 AM
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was he talking to that girl ...she is not married you know...I saw him go up to her apt....
The fake ones are the ones who make comments like this (GOSSIPS). They are worse than the ones "doing" these things.
How do you deal w/em? It's not for me, that battle is not mine..It is for me to be me and to learn from those (as others point out we have to do some discerning) with something to teach.
I have many things to do. I can't not fix or control the "church of laodicea" crowd, so I just smile and go on. Count it all joy..
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24th December 2006, 03:02 AM
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24th December 2006, 03:16 AM
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Reps: 9,505 (power: 16) | | Originally Posted by bdarien What too many people forget is that Christ did not call us to condemn others or to try to make them feel conviction for their sins, that is the Holy Spirits job. We are simply to love them, present the truth and and witness to them. Amen! 
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28th December 2006, 11:15 PM
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What a Concept. I mean, Yes, people use Jesus name for Political power, wealth, and to push their own agendas.
But are they really fake Christians?
I would wonder, maybe they are more real in their belief then most, as they know what they believe, better, far better then those that follow them. I mean truly how much can you have "faith" in something, if you are willing to treat it like a tool.
Just something that came to my mind regarding this.
For the most part, I shake the dust off my feet, and move on, when I have deal with these types of people.
God Bless
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__________________ "Pit Bulls and Christians, the whole lot of them being damned for a few bad apples" I dreamt death came the other night
and Heaven's gates swung wide
An Angel with Halo Bright
Ushered me inside
And there to my astonishment
Stood folks I had judged and Labeled
as Quite unfit, of Little Worth, and Spiritually Disabled.
Indigent words rose to my lips
But never were set Free
as every face showed stun surprise
not one expected me. | 
29th December 2006, 09:03 AM
| | for the things which God has said 43 
| | Join Date: 28th November 2005 Location: Topeka, Kansas, USA
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Reps: 601 (power: 0) | | Probably depends on the meaning we use of the word "Christian". Interestingly enough, in Scripture we have not one single instance of the Lord Himself using that word. So I tend to avoid it as much as possible. Originally Posted by Key Fake Christians.
What a Concept. I mean, Yes, people use Jesus name for Political power, wealth, and to push their own agendas.
But are they really fake Christians?
I would wonder, maybe they are more real in their belief then most, as they know what they believe, better, far better then those that follow them. I mean truly how much can you have "faith" in something, if you are willing to treat it like a tool.
Just something that came to my mind regarding this.
For the most part, I shake the dust off my feet, and move on, when I have deal with these types of people.
God Bless
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