Selective-Sex Abortion?

What are your opinions about selective-sex abortions?

Do you find it moral to abort people based on sex?

Could selective-sex abortions be harmful to the economy?

(It may be wise to define what "moral" is, as to avoid misunderstandings)

Please explain the reasoning behind your answers so that others may increase their knowledge of this subject.

Thanks.


I believe God(the God found in the Torah and the New Testament Books) defines what is moral and immoral. One of the ten commandments was not to murder. I believe abortions to be murder, thus I think abortions are immoral.

It is written that God finds murder to be immoral(or wrong, he tells use not to do it)
I think abortion is murder
Thus I think abortions are immoral

I also think that abortions(including selective-sex abortions) may be harmful to the economy. Approximately 945,000,000 abortions have taken place globally from 1920 till 2005 (http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp337sd.html).

I would imagine that a one billion person fluctuation would have quite a large impact on most economic systems.
Usually, from what Ive learned in economics, as demand increases supply increases(at least in a free market). If the population drops, then usually the demand drops, as the demand drops the supply generally drops as well.

If the supply of an item(or service) drops than obviously that means the production of that item(or service) drops. Which results in lowered Gross National Product and Gross Domestic Product. Usually high GNP and GDP is a good sign of a strong economy. Therefore I come to the conclusion that as population increases the economy may grow stronger, and that as the population decreases, the economy may weaken.

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The practice tends to produce excess males. Countries with excess males tend to put them into armies and fight wars.

And what are your justifications for those premises?

Ok, so by using your rationale that the more people there are, the better, we could conclude that if there were 50 trillion people on the planet that the economy would be strong, yes?

I think your idea is a little narrow in the economic department as economical stability depends on a little more than just population.

I would say that the choice to abort lies with the woman who is having the baby. I have no say in it, and neither do you.

Since the global population is growing, I would say that the near billion abortions have had near to no effect economically, and that given current circumstances with the amount of people and the sustainability of the Earth and resource consumption abortion (including sex selection) is not entirely a bad thing.

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I'm for abortion, but not if it condones sexism.

"And what are your justifications for those premises?"

Well, the life is may be defined as "The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism."(American Heritage Dictionary)

I find that children still in their mothers womb meet the definition of "life". Murder may be defined as "kill intentionally and with premeditation"(Word Net). Kill can be defined as "to deprive of life in any manner"(dictionary.com). In an abortion a child is intentionally deprived of life, which I believe meets the definition of murder.

"Ok, so by using your rationale that the more people there are, the better, we could conclude that if there were 50 trillion people on the planet that the economy would be strong, yes?

I think your idea is a little narrow in the economic department as economical stability depends on a little more than just population."

I also said that "Usually, from what Ive learned in economics, as demand increases supply increases(at least in a free market). If the population drops, then usually the demand drops, as the demand drops the supply generally drops as well.

If the supply of an item(or service) drops than obviously that means the production of that item(or service) drops. Which results in lowered Gross National Product and Gross Domestic Product. Usually high GNP and GDP is a good sign of a strong economy. Therefore I come to the conclusion that as population increases the economy may grow stronger, and that as the population decreases, the economy may weaken."

According to my rational and a little logic, much as like you said, it would be ridiculous to think that population is the only(or primary) deciding factor in a strong economy. A strong economy does have many other factors involved.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion that "the more people, the better" from my rational.

"I think your idea is a little narrow in the economic department as economical stability depends on a little more than just population."

How is my idea "a little narrow"? I have not excluded any factors. Please explain to me how you came so such a conclusion, so that I may better communicate my thoughts more clearly in the future and to prevent future misunderstandings.

"I would say that the choice to abort lies with the woman who is having the baby. I have no say in it, and neither do you. "

However, both you and I have a right to speak of the morality of abortions. So what if it is the womens choice? I don't see what has to do with the morality of selective sex abortions (the Topic of this thread is about the morality of selective-sex abortion)?

" Since the global population is growing, I would say that the near billion abortions have had near to no effect economically, and that given current circumstances with the amount of people and the sustainability of the Earth and resource consumption abortion (including sex selection) is not entirely a bad thing. "

There are approximately 6 billion 600 million people alive right. If those nearly 1 billion abortions would not have been performed there could have been roughly 2/13th more people alive right now. That would bump the global population over 7.6 billion. It would also mean that there would be more consumer, producers, entrepreneurs, and scientists alive today.
I believe that the most free market economies would have been better off if those nearly 1 billion abortions would have never taken place.


So, you find "abortion (including sex selection) is not entirely a bad thing. " Does that mean you found it economically beneficial and morally right to have an abortion based on the sex of the child?

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Let me get this straight.

"I'm for abortion"
You approve of abortion.

"but not if it condones sexism."
But not if the mother chooses to do so because of sex.

Well, that leaves me to ask:
Does that mean you don't approve of women's right to choose?

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Errrr... no.

It is the woman's choice and you appear to be deviating from your own topic.

I do approve of the woman's righ to choose. I may disagree with the reasons, and I especially disagree with sex-selective abortions, but again, it's the mother's choice, not mine.

Sounds to me like you don't think women should be allowed to have an abortion if they know their child's sex.

" Errrr... no."
Umm... yes actually, I do think that abortion "meets the definition of murder." Are you telling me that I don't think that abortion is murder, because I truly do believe it "meets the definition of murder."

However, if you believe that abortion does not meet the definition of murder please explain why.

" It is the woman's choice and you appear to be deviating from your own topic."
I never said it was not the woman's choice(again what of it?).
I suppose I was deviating off topic, however I did so in order to respond to his post(I am not meaning to blame it on anyone, I guess I freely chose to deviate)(I don't believe it is proper to ignore some one).

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