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27th November 2006, 05:20 AM
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Reps: 1,581 (power: 7) | | Originally Posted by Lonnie  Sounds to me like you don't think women should be allowed to have an abortion if they know their child's sex.
" Errrr... no."
Umm... yes actually, I do think that abortion "meets the definition of murder." Are you telling me that I don't think that abortion is murder, because I truly do believe it "meets the definition of murder."
However, if you believe that abortion does not meet the definition of murder please explain why.
" It is the woman's choice and you appear to be deviating from your own topic."
I never said it was not the woman's choice(again what of it?).
I suppose I was deviating off topic, however I did so in order to respond to his post(I am not meaning to blame it on anyone, I guess I freely chose to deviate)(I don't believe it is proper to ignore some one).
Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not a human being, it has not adopted the traits of a human being. It's biology.
But while I disagree with sex-selective abortion, it's not my choice, now is it? |
27th November 2006, 05:29 AM
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Reps: 441 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by FundyChick Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not a human being, it has not adopted the traits of a human being. It's biology.
But while I disagree with sex-selective abortion, it's not my choice, now is it?
"Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not a human being, it has not adopted the traits of a human being. It's biology."
That still does not show the error in my reasoning, abortions still meet the definition (at least in one of my examples) of murder.
What are these "traits of a human being?"
" But while I disagree with sex-selective abortion, it's not my choice, now is it?"
Your right, it is not your choice(not your choice to decide who gets an abortion who does not), but why do you bring up whose choice it is?
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27th November 2006, 07:16 AM
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What if there were a way to determine if an unborn child were homosexual? (Of course we know there isn't any way to do this because no one is born homosexual, but humor me.)
If there were a way to determine if a child were going to be homosexual or not, and the mother wanted to kill the unborn child if it were to be a homosexual, would that be moral?
Would you be for or against that?
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27th November 2006, 12:03 PM
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Reps: 13,634 (power: 21) | | | I'm pro-choice and I really don't think it's any of my business why anyone else gets an abortion. I think in the case of selective-sex abortions, countries that have problems with this issue (I think India is a big one) have much deeper problems with a sexist society. Banning selective-sex abortion isn't going to solve the underlying problems. Maybe in 20 years when half the males can't find anyone to have babies with themselves, they'll figure out that maybe this wasn't such a great plan after all.
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27th November 2006, 10:51 PM
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What if she wants to kill the unborn child because of it's eye color or hair color?
What if she thought it would be homosexual and wanted to kill it because of that? What if there were a way to kill all homosexuals in the womb, would you be in favor of that too if the mothers wanted it?
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27th November 2006, 11:23 PM
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Reps: 416,333,290 (power: 416,349) | | Originally Posted by mayatesnomas What if she wants to kill the unborn child because of it's eye color or hair color?
What if she thought it would be homosexual and wanted to kill it because of that? What if there were a way to kill all homosexuals in the womb, would you be in favor of that too if the mothers wanted it?
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Why should any of this be information you are privy to? It is a personal, private medical decision. The reasons are noone's business.
Whe we say it is her choice, that means she does not have to justify anything to you.
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27th November 2006, 11:31 PM
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Why should any of this be information you are privy to? It is a personal, private medical decision. The reasons are noone's business.
When we say it is her choice, that means she does not have to justify anything to you.
So if someone wanted to kill all homosexuals in the womb, you'd be ok with that provided it was the mother's choice?
If having a blonde haired kid suddenly became a shame, you'd be ok with exterminating all blonde kids right? |
27th November 2006, 11:33 PM
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Reps: 416,333,290 (power: 416,349) | | Originally Posted by mayatesnomas What if there were a way to identify humanists and atheists in the womb and the mother decided to kill them? Would you be ok with that?
I will try to be clearer....IT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS WHO HAS AN ABORTION OR THEIR REASONS FOR IT.I do not spend my time wondering about everyone else's personal and private MEDICAL DECISIONS.
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