Sorry for the late reply- I was really looking for that article about the cave thing--- I saw it about 2 years ago and I remember it being on some small website. I can't seem to find it-- but i'll keep looking- and if I find it i'll post ASAP.
Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch Ah the old Satan excuse again. Everyone corrupted by Satan and God too imcompetent to prevent it so he had to destroy the world with a flood killing off women, childern, unborn babies and most of the animal life. Have you ever thought this through? It is total nonsense just like the rest of YEC.
Ah the old "Satan excuse" excuse.
There is a thin and obvious line between what is good and what is bad- from honesty and truthfulness- to lying and rape- murder- genocide. Heres my point-- what is honesty and truthfulness without the rape murder and genocide? We can only know how good something is by its evil counter part- and how evil something is by its good counterpart. What is life without death--- life would be meaningless without death- it would be worthless if it never ended. What is heaven without hell to back it up-- it makes it worth something. Heaven is the "good" place- and hell is the "bad" place-- they balance eachother out. Why did God wipe out all the little cutie women and children- who were so innocent-- sitting in their cribs making you want to eat them (not literally- and i'm talking about the babies and children- not the women lol)- they didn't know anything- why kill them?
The children would all have been corrupted- changed into grown liars- and murderers- sinners. Even Hitler was once a baby- sitting on his mommy's lap- in a rocker- with a bottle in his mouth- and a little bib with a tug boat on it around his neck- cuddling a teddy bear in his arms. I didn't see him wearing that bib while he commanded the german army to attack poland and capture the Jews. What if
all the people during Noahs time had been corrupted- not one good man alive- all worshipping idols and indulgeing in sin? What would heaven be? What would be good and what would be bad? There would be one side- and everything would be bad--- there would be no balance- and things that were bad would become the norm-- getting worse and worse- God had to wipe the people out to preserve the balance between good and evil--- because when good went- how would they know what was evil. That is why I am here-- as a representive from the other side of the thin line. You can be on either side- it's your choice. Knowledge of good and evil--acquired by adam and eve- given to us----- its a balance. Its not the knowledge of just evil- or just good- its both- because without one another- both would be meaningless.
Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch Evidence please.
Ugggg- like I said- I tried to find it-- and when I do- it goes up ASAP- (and no I am not lying- thats too cheap- AIG does that) but I did find some other stuff-- about how fish scales have fossilized in certain areas-- and they do not usually fossilize--- which gives evidence to a great flood. I can't find good stuff on the flood-- because I can falsify most of it myself. I can't deny the flood-- it tells me so much about today.--I just believe that it happened somewhere- and at sometime.- Nuf said.
Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch There have undoubtably been thousands and thousands of great local floods in the history of man. There are river valleys that flood virtually every year, Hurricanes and Typhoons can cause massive floods and coastal areas suffer tsunamis after earthquakes and tales grow in the telling. Primative people tend to consider their world the whole world but many of the stories are about large local floods. Most of these myths are very different than the Noah flood. Are we to believe that people who are all descended from the same family that survived a worldwide flood caused by a vindictive God somehow developed hundreds of different myths and religious traditions within a short time afterwards? There are also widespread folk myths about walking dead and people turning into animals. This does not mean that Dracula versus the Wolfman was based on real events.
The Frumious Bandersnatch
It is obvious that some of the stories were very similar-- some even mentioned animals boarding a ship like in Noah's story. I know it seems strange that one event could turn into hundreds of stories.
I am reminded of the story of Paul Bunion (forgive spelling)-- the mysterious gigancic lumberjack. Within a few generations of american lumberjack folk tales-- a simple made up mystical lumberjack- grew from normal sized to beyond gigantic-- and from working alone to having a blue steer (or horse- whatever- not sure)- who also became gigantic. He dosn't even exist today-- the story was changed dramatically within a few generations. The bible is many 1000's of years old- and it hasn't changed much- (YES I KNOW SOMETHINGS MIGHT HAVE CHANGED). A divine spririt could have watched over moses and his family- and made sure it reproduced. If the death rate was low- and the families had like 20 children-- it could happen. Think of the mathmatical trick-- multiply 2 a hundred times-- 2x2= 4- 4x4= 8- 8x8= 16- etc- pretty soon your in the thousands-- millions. The biblical account was written down-- and the same story was probably passed down orally- which changed and evolved-- just as Paul Bunions story did.
AGAIN-- SORRY FOR THE DELAY