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The flood is a scare tatic (just like hell, s&g). If people get to "evil" then God will go mad and kill everyone. I can assure you as bad as the world was before the flood (not that it was bad) its 50x's worse now, with all the genocide going on in africa and what happened in Bosina (muslims vs christians), USSR (stalin), Hitler (Holocost), Vietnam, Korea, ect....
Ironically most of these events can be traced back to religious differences (as well as some political). Its strange that the very thing that scares people into submission also causes them to commit some of the ugliest catshrophes of all time.
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Ironically most of these events can be traced back to religious differences (as well as some political). Its strange that the very thing that scares people into submission also causes them to commit some of the ugliest catshrophes of all time.
Did you come here just to slash and burn, or did you come here looking for something and needing help in some area of your life?
Did you come here just to slash and burn, or did you come here looking for something and needing help in some area of your life?
Though you might find it strange and hard to believe, JohnR7, I doubt that anyone at all (excepting you of course) came here for your self-important, ignorant pontificating.
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"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" -- Micah 6:8
"It is because we believe absurdities that we are able to commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
"This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"Je ne suis pas marxiste." -- Karl Marx
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."-- Mark Twain
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I came from the Internet Infidels Message Board, which is 90% atheist/10% theist, and I got tired of being the majority... and it was tough finding good debates over there, because it was always so one sided.
So I figured I would come here and find it the other way around... I am not too sure that's what I found though... seems the majority of the posters in this science, evolution thread are agnostic or atheist.
Maybe I should try the apologetics thread?
__________________ It's just another day.... the shame is gone.
It's hard to believe... that I've let it go away.
It's just a melody.... it bleeds in me.
It's hard to believe... that I've let it go.
The reason why I am here is pretty simple.
I came from the Internet Infidels Message Board, which is 90% atheist/10% theist, and I got tired of being the majority... and it was tough finding good debates over there, because it was always so one sided.
So I figured I would come here and find it the other way around... I am not too sure that's what I found though... seems the majority of the posters in this science, evolution thread are agnostic or atheist.
Maybe I should try the apologetics thread?
I think the creationists would be better represented if so many of them hadn't quit paying attention in the second grade.
__________________ "A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is a superstition." - Jose Bergamin
"You can't trust an honest man." --- Anonymous
"He does not believe who does not live according to his belief." -- Thomas Fuller
"The fact that the author thinks slowly is not serious, but the fact that he publishes faster than he thinks is inexcusable." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" -- Micah 6:8
"It is because we believe absurdities that we are able to commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
"This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"Je ne suis pas marxiste." -- Karl Marx
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."-- Mark Twain
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein
All they can do is recite the same garbage that their parents told them, and their parents before them...
They can do no independent thought or research to try to validate what they say, their answer is always the same: "goddidit".
I've never run into a creationist that has been able to make a solid argument for his case. They do more of a sleight of hand parlor trick, and turn it around on you. They will give evidence AGAINST evolution, rather than evidence for creation. I've posted threads on many boards asking for just 1 piece of evidence that would lead us to believe that we are the divine creation of God, and I have never gotten any answer other than something that goes against evolution.
Maybe it's because I like to think, and am above average intelligence that I think the way I do. I just wish that I was able to understand why it is the YEC's and fundies think the way they do. It just always comes off as blatant stupidity.
It really is frustrating, but on the same level it is rather entertaining to debate these people.
__________________ It's just another day.... the shame is gone.
It's hard to believe... that I've let it go away.
It's just a melody.... it bleeds in me.
It's hard to believe... that I've let it go.
I came from the Internet Infidels Message Board, which is 90% atheist/10% theist, and I got tired of being the majority... and it was tough finding good debates over there, because it was always so one sided.
We do get a little bit of debate going every now and then, for those who really want to have a discussion and are not here just to represent themselves as an enemy of God and Christianity.
It would appear because of the Holiday weekend, that a lot of people who come here just use their computer at work.
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