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My favorite is escapability up the mountains. You know, the one about oak trees outrunning velocirators. The really amusing thing is these same creationists will turn around and tell you that there were no significant mountains before the flood.
Then there is the biome one, you know how mangroves and water lilles alway live high in the mountains and lichens and conifers alway live way down in the swamp. Wait, creationists have this backward too and what about there being no mountains?
And if there were no mountains, whence came those thousands of cubic miles of sediment?
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And if there were no mountains, whence came those thousands of cubic miles of sediment?
I suppose that would make an interesting topic for a new thread. Creationists postulate that thousands of feet of sediements including sand, gravel, limestone and so on, were deposited all over the world by the flood but they never reveal any source for these sediments. Did God create 10,000 cubic miles of sand somewhere just for it to be picked up by the flood and distributed to form the Coconino sandstones and did He create huge piles of sand in other places to account for all the sandstones in the world? That doesn't make much sense to me.
However, I would like to hear some YECs try to explain the fossil record on this thread. I guess they must know that they can't do it.
So are the YECs who post ready to admit that there is no way that a significant fraction of the fossil record could have been deposited by a worldwide flood? It seems that way. How many falsifications of the worldwide flood do you need before you follow the lead of the creationist geologists of the 19th century and realize that it is your interpretation of Genesis that is incorrect and not most of science?
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So are the YECs who post ready to admit that there is no way that a significant fraction of the fossil record could have been deposited by a worldwide flood? It seems that way. How many falsifications of the worldwide flood do you need before you follow the lead of the creationist geologists of the 19th century and realize that it is your interpretation of Genesis that is incorrect and not most of science?
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A long, loud silence....
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"You can't trust an honest man." --- Anonymous
"He does not believe who does not live according to his belief." -- Thomas Fuller
"The fact that the author thinks slowly is not serious, but the fact that he publishes faster than he thinks is inexcusable." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" -- Micah 6:8
"It is because we believe absurdities that we are able to commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
"This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"Je ne suis pas marxiste." -- Karl Marx
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."-- Mark Twain
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein
Of course it continues. All YEC explanations of how the worldwide flood might have sorted to the fossil record are so easily shown to be nonsense that they have quit trying.
The silence continues because no one wants to discuss the issues. The pick on some tiny, tiny little point, then they falsify it, and claim victory. Then when you try to get them into a discussion on the real issues, they do not want to talk about it. Because they know it will not be so easy for them to falsify the real issues at hand.
The silence continues because no one wants to discuss the issues. The pick on some tiny, tiny little point, then they falsify it, and claim victory. Then when you try to get them into a discussion on the real issues, they do not want to talk about it. Because they know it will not be so easy for them to falsify the real issues at hand.
Right, John. We're all familiar with the YEC tactics you've mentioned. This thread was for more rhetorical purposes; trying to expose YECism for the pseudoscientific nonsense it is.
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Right, John. We're all familiar with the YEC tactics you've mentioned. This thread was for more rhetorical purposes; trying to expose YECism for the pseudoscientific nonsense it is.
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