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4th October 2003, 12:46 AM
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Reps: 55,386,685,686,280,104 (power: 55,386,685,686,308) | | Originally Posted by wblastyn Wrong. See unlike you, my beliefs do not rest on how God created. I don't care if evolution is falsified and creationism is validated, it makes no difference to me. You on the other hand depend on creationism being true because you equate it with Christianity and evolution with atheism, therefore you want creationism to be true otherwise your beliefs will be destroyed. They shouldn't, but it's your own fault for equating evolution with atheism. Therefore you only listen to what you want to hear in fear of your beliefs being challenged.
I accept evolution because that is what all the evidence points towards, not because I want it to be true. Science isn't about what we want or don't what, it's about what is.
Tell me, why do you think I would want evolution to be true?
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4th October 2003, 01:09 AM
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Reps: 3,202,689,982,729,637 (power: 3,202,689,982,740) | | Originally Posted by Korymajor Hello, I was wondering if anyone happened to have the material that Mr. Hovind uses in his seminars, IE. Powerpoint slides avaliable on the internet? Thank you for your time
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Not I and I've never seen anything like that on his website. Perhaps you'll just have to watch the videos to see all his amazing evidence 
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5th October 2003, 04:26 PM
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If you go to www.drdino.com there's a section where you can e-mail him. Why don't you ask for the Powerpoint slides? Let us know what he says.
However, if you go to use them, remember that they will only work on a completely ignorant audience. If there is anyone in the audience that knows anything at all about evolution, Hovind's arguments will be refuted by the information that person possesses.
So, you may also want to visit www.talkorigins.org and www.ncseweb.org before you find yourself in an embarrassing position.
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Originally Posted by IamThatHero What do you all think of Kent Hovind?
Have you ever looked into the "University" where he got his "PhD" from? It's pretty funny stuff, here is a link to some of their actual coursework: http://www.patriotuniversity.com/coursesample.asp
He's a con artist and probably making good money stealing from gullible believers. |
9th October 2003, 05:41 AM
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Reps: 5,749 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by Routerider Have you ever looked into the "University" where he got his "PhD" from? It's pretty funny stuff, here is a link to some of their actual coursework: http://www.patriotuniversity.com/coursesample.asp
He's a con artist and probably making good money stealing from gullible believers.
That's meant to be university coursework? It's fundy Sunday School stuff!
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9th October 2003, 11:35 AM
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Reps: 23 (power: 0) | | | He might not be 100% accurate but he sure does explain YEC good.
I don't understand why Atheist bash him so much, maybe because he points out they got no evidence for evolution. LOL
And if evolution isn't true then.......................................
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Reps: 5,749 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by TruthTraveler He might not be 100% accurate but he sure does explain YEC good.
Indeed. He demonstrates just how vacuous it is, and how full of distortions and outright lies, very well indeed. I don't understand why Atheist bash him so much, maybe because he points out they got no evidence for evolution. LOL
I think you'll find it's not just atheists who bash him. Anyone who cares about the truth will be offended by his drivel And if evolution isn't true then.......................................
.....the world must have been made from the condensing of gases in Ginungagap, just as the Elder Edda says. Then this became the giant Ymir, out of whose body the universe was made. We await Ragnarok with fear.
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11th October 2003, 11:37 PM
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Reps: 2,512 (power: 13) | | Originally Posted by TruthTraveler He might not be 100% accurate but he sure does explain YEC good.
I don't understand why Atheist bash him so much, maybe because he points out they got no evidence for evolution. LOL
And if evolution isn't true then.......................................
Funny you say that, even YEC's disagree with him. Answersingenesis.org even warned Hovind to stop using arguments that have been found to be false. http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1011hovind.asp |
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Reps: 2,789 (power: 11) | | | "Hulk Hovind"'s son is coming to my church next wed night, if you live anywhere P'cola, FL, I would love for anyone bashing to come do it to someone's face, instead of just hiding behind their pc screen.
By the way, dr.dino.com is the ANTI-HOVIND website, you can check out other cowards that were to scared to bash somebody that can speak back. |
12th October 2003, 12:16 AM
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Reps: 3,202,689,982,729,637 (power: 3,202,689,982,740) | | Originally Posted by TransformedByGrace "Hulk Hovind"'s son is coming to my church next wed night, if you live anywhere P'cola, FL, I would love for anyone bashing to come do it to someone's face, instead of just hiding behind their pc screen.
If he ever speaks in Davis I would love to discuss matters with him. I would travel all the way to Pensacola but my wings are tired By the way, dr.dino.com is the ANTI-HOVIND website  www.drdino.com is Hovind's website. www.dr.dino.com does not exist. http://dr.dino.com does not exist either you can check out other cowards that were to scared to bash somebody that can speak back.
Coward? 
Dr. Hovind is free to come to these boards (he does link to them on his website) and put us in our place. I have even emailed Dr. Hovind before informing him that we (evolutionists) run the joint; I have yet to receive a response 
Rest assured, if they ever create a forum on www.drdino.com I will be there as soon as i can spreading the truth.
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