Origins TheologyForum for the discussion of Creation Science (Young/Old) vs Theistic Evolution. Discussion of Atheistic Evolution should be taken to the Discussion and Debate forums.
The only reason you think they'r good is because they tell you what you want to hear. Their science has been shown to be wrong here many times. When are you just going to accept that they've been lying to you?
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The Only reason you belive in evoultionist is because they tell you want you want to hear
Wrong. See unlike you, my beliefs do not rest on how God created. I don't care if evolution is falsified and creationism is validated, it makes no difference to me. You on the other hand depend on creationism being true because you equate it with Christianity and evolution with atheism, therefore you want creationism to be true otherwise your beliefs will be destroyed. They shouldn't, but it's your own fault for equating evolution with atheism. Therefore you only listen to what you want to hear in fear of your beliefs being challenged.
I accept evolution because that is what all the evidence points towards, not because I want it to be true. Science isn't about what we want or don't what, it's about what is.
Tell me, why do you think I would want evolution to be true?
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The Only reason you belive in evoultionist is because they tell you want you want to hear
Actually, the reason most people accept evolution is because their is evidence of it, and it makes sense. A literal Genesis just doesn't make sense, if you do a careful read through. In addition, evolution doesn't go against God, so there is no reason to dogmatically accept what the creationists are shoveling.
I find that Hovind and his ilk are bad Christians on a number of levels. He's misrepresenting himself ("dr" indeed) and in my opinion, he's FLAT OUT LIEING, how can a Christian truly expect to lead people towards God's word, if they are lieing?
It's a shame that the Creationist propoganda is so influencial. In the end, it will turn many away from Christ and not towards him, once the people realize that both YEC/ID are lies. It saddens me and I pray a lot about the denial of these clearly mislead Christians.
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Wrong. See unlike you, my beliefs do not rest on how God created. I don't care if evolution is falsified and creationism is validated, it makes no difference to me.
Then what if it turns out that neither one of them represents the truth of God. What if you had to go direct to God to learn the truth. What would you do then?
Then what if it turns out that neither one of them represents the truth of God. What if you had to go direct to God to learn the truth. What would you do then?
I'd have to wait until I was dead then.
Btw, I said before I wouldn't care if creationism was validated, which is true, I don't care, however since it is a falsified scientific theory it never will be validated.
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As long as charlatans continue to post their often refuted and bogus arguments on their web pages, there will probably be well meaning but gullible persons who will cut and paste those arguments here.
Folks, evolution is neither the atheistic or satanic threat to the Bible that the YECcies seem to fear, nor the slam-dunk scientific answer that their opponents sometimes assert. It is a scientific theory that has received widespread acceptance.
It is not likely the bogus arguments of "Dr. Dino" will have much effect except on the pocketbooks of those who purchase his materials. In my humble opinion, if you really wanted to attack the theory of evolution at the point where it might possibly be vulnerable, you would need to go in an entirely different direction from the one being used by the YECs....
the likes of hovind are a bigger threat to christianity than any scientist ever will be. People will associate the fallibility of hovind's arguments with the religion itself, discrediting God and losing believers. Scientists will always tell you that science has nothing to say on God, letting people believe as they like.
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The only good thing Answers in Genesis has ever done is show Hovind for the fraud that he is.
I mean really, if AIG (the strongest Creation Science operation going) can see through him, I can't imagine why nobody else can. When they denounced him, I was actually momentarily fond of those guys.
Hello, I was wondering if anyone happened to have the material that Mr. Hovind uses in his seminars, IE. Powerpoint slides avaliable on the internet? Thank you for your time