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Old 12th November 2003, 02:58 PM
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Man oh man, you really don't get it. Please, please go and learn what a theory is versus a fact. We had to explain this to someone else just a couple of days ago. Can someone pull that discussion and link it for Dutch's edification?

As for the missing link, what would expect to find? What would qualify as a missing link for you?
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Originally Posted by Dutchunter
So you found the missing link? Other evidence? It's no longer a theory?
The point is that Atomic theory is still a theory as well. The bomb is evidence that is is correct just like the several independent lines of evidence point to evolution being correct.

Either way, they will still just be theories. Can you give us a scientific definition of a theory?
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Wrong....my whole point was that the Atomic one HAS been proven.....evolution has NOT. Already responded to the theory question in the other thread.
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Originally Posted by Vance
Man oh man, you really don't get it. Please, please go and learn what a theory is versus a fact. We had to explain this to someone else just a couple of days ago. Can someone pull that discussion and link it for Dutch's edification?

As for the missing link, what would expect to find? What would qualify as a missing link for you?
Vance...I notice you skip over reponses to yourself and jump on my responses to other. Force of habit?

Is this simple enough for you? Evolution is not a fact. The evidence does not support it as fact. It's a fact that evolutionists have been so wrong so often.
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Of course, evolution is not a fact, that is a ridiculous statement, since evolution is not the type of thing that can be described as a fact. You say you "get" the whole theory issue, then you say something like this.
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Thank you. Finally. Evolution has not been proven. It is not a fact. And so neither can you say YEC's have been disproven or whatever. That was what my whole "theory" talk was all about. And when someone posts an AIG link saying don't use "theory".....it's obvious you know what I meant.
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No, you still do not get it. The evidence we have supports the theory of evolution. There has been no evidence that falsifies evolution. Just like gravity (actually more so, since the theory of gravity is being challenged as we speak).

And, yes, every YEC theory has been falsified already, they just won't admit it or present the falsifying evidence. A young earth has been falsified, a global flood has been falsified, every theory they come up with to argue for a young earth or against evolution has been shown to be false. That is all set out in minute detail dozens of places, including the science forum.

Go ahead, present your favorite AIG theory.
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Originally Posted by Dutchunter
Wrong....my whole point was that the Atomic one HAS been proven.....evolution has NOT. Already responded to the theory question in the other thread.
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Originally Posted by Vance
No, you still do not get it. The evidence we have supports the theory of evolution. There has been no evidence that falsifies evolution. Just like gravity (actually more so, since the theory of gravity is being challenged as we speak).

And, yes, every YEC theory has been falsified already, they just won't admit it or present the falsifying evidence. A young earth has been falsified, a global flood has been falsified, every theory they come up with to argue for a young earth or against evolution has been shown to be false. That is all set out in minute detail dozens of places, including the science forum.

Go ahead, present your favorite AIG theory.
I do get it. Evolution is not fact. There is plenty of evidence that falsifies evolution- and I'm not just talking about frauds. YEC "theory" has not been falsified. Why don't you try to back up the skull- human evolution theory- first?
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Old 12th November 2003, 03:35 PM
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If you got it, you would not say "Evolution is not a fact" since this very statement (once again) shows an ignorance of what a theory is. Theories are not facts. You might as well say "gravity is not a fact", since this is as true as your statement that evolution is not a fact.

Please feel free to present your evidence that falsifies evolution, and do it in detail. AND be ready to back it up when you get an explanation why it does NOT falsify evolution.

And I am not sure what you mean by the "skull-human evolution theory"?
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