Dr. Dino

Dutchunter · #**101** 12th November 2003, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by notto

So there are doors in the firmament that let the rain in and storehouses of snow in the firmament?

Reread my posts and the article. You know very well I was speaking of evolution "theory" in general with the quote you're responding to- and I still see no evidence from you.

Vance · #**102** 12th November 2003, 02:38 PM

No, you said there is no physical evidence which contradicts a literal reading of Scripture. He is pointing out one example of how what we know from science contradicts a literal reading of Scripture. Of course, it does not contradict Scripture itself, just the literal reading of it.

troodon · #**103** 12th November 2003, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dutchunter

Troodon...next time just respond to what I'm saying

What part did I skip? I felt that my response was rather exhaustive.

instead of picking it apart sentence by sentence.

What better way to give it a thorough thrashing than to respond in a clear, linear fashion?

I realize there's so much evidence for your side that you don't have room to post it all

And you are doing such a good job discussing them :rolleyes:

(those links/"evidence" have been refuted.

No they have not. If they have perhaps you had better tell us how they have been refuted; else we are in the dark.

Would you like me to post every link to every case made against evolution by AIG and others?)

Or you could tell us in your own words.

But I have to respond to your claim of me violating rule #1. As I said in the SAME SENTENCE

You said: "you have the same beliefs as "non-believers". Not "you have the same belief regarding the creation of the diversity of life on the planet as "non-believers". My apologies for your statement being ambiguous.

(shows how desperate you are)

I'm the desparate one whereas you are forced to wave off all evidence presented by claiming AiG has dealt with it when you yourself have presented no evidence that this is the case.

Now go back to finding all those missing links for us

You can find some on that Dino-Bird Transitions link.

I hate to have to remind people.....evolution is a THEORY- demonstrated over and over to be wrong!

Again all you are providing is empty rhetoric; even AiG does a better job. At least they have the guts to present false evidence.

A "theory" that actually tests to work- THE bomb- duh..........

I haven't the slightest clue what you are trying to say here.

Dutchunter · #**104** 12th November 2003, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Vance

No, you said there is no physical evidence which contradicts a literal reading of Scripture. He is pointing out one example of how what we know from science contradicts a literal reading of Scripture. Of course, it does not contradict Scripture itself, just the literal reading of it.

I was responding to his statement on CREATION:

"Sure anybody can do that, but in this case, it is only done when there is physical evidence in the creation that directly contradicts and falsifies a literal reading of the texts."

I think you guys confuse "literal" with "literal using common sense" either way. :rolleyes:

Dutchunter · #**105** 12th November 2003, 02:50 PM

Troodon....I'm not going to waste my time with someone who goes sentence by sentence and can't even figure out how obvious a difference there is between a theory proven to work- The A-bomb- and one that is still a theory not proven- evolution.

Vance · #**106** 12th November 2003, 02:52 PM

Ah, but that is just it. What you call "common sense" is simply knowing that the literal way the Scripture describes it is not actually true, so it must mean something else. And how do you know this? Because you know more about the world around you than people did in ancient times (I am sure that the initial reader of the verse quoted thought that it was literally true just the way it was written). And how do you know more about the world around you? Scientific discovery.

Now apply this process to Genesis 1 and you do NOT get YEC'ism.

Dutchunter · #**107** 12th November 2003, 02:53 PM

I sure DO get YEC'ism! Even more so- I get non-evolution'ism!

wblastyn · #**108** 12th November 2003, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dutchunter

Troodon....I'm not going to waste my time with someone who goes sentence by sentence and can't even figure out how obvious a difference there is between a theory proven to work- The A-bomb- and one that is still a theory not proven- evolution.

Please learn how science works before saying anything like that again, it will avoid embarassment.

Dutchunter · #**109** 12th November 2003, 02:55 PM

So you found the missing link? Other evidence? It's no longer a theory?

wblastyn · #**110** 12th November 2003, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dutchunter

So you found the missing link? Other evidence? It's no longer a theory?

Of course it's a theory, it will always be a theory, just like gravity is a theory and germs are a theory.

A theory in science is different than the common use of the word.