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Old 12th April 2003, 11:51 AM
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SELF DEFEATING OXYMORONIC STATEMENT: "I don't know if I exist, but for some reason.."

The following is for those philisophers who say that I can't prove that I exist.


MR. COMPLETE IDIOT STATEMENT #1: "YOU DON"T KNOW IF YOU EXIST and NEITHER DO I. NOR CAN YOU PROVE IT"


OK, MR. COMPLETE IDIOT, IF you DON'T KNOW if YOU EXIST, HOW CAN YOUR STATEMENT #1 EXIST in the FIRST PLACE SINCE YOU DON"T KNOW IF YOU EXIST? 

AND if you don't EXIST, how can things come out of your Non-Existent MOUTH in the first place



SELF OXYMORONIC STATEMENT:
"I don't know if I exist, but for some reason, everything that comes out of my mouth does exist...."



No wonder where some many people are screwed up! it's these stupid philosphers!!!
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Old 12th April 2003, 12:45 PM
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*sigh*

Shouting at us, insulting us, and using colored text does not enhance your argument. (And "Self-oxymoronic" is somewhat redundant, neh?)

"IF you DON'T KNOW if YOU EXIST, HOW CAN YOUR STATEMENT #1 EXIST in the FIRST PLACE SINCE YOU DON"T KNOW IF YOU EXIST?"

It may not. Perhaps I am a figment of your overactive imagination, along with the rest of empirical reality. Perhaps you are a figment of mine. Neither of us can show these statements to be false.

Note that I can 'do' things regardless of whether or not I know I exist. (I can't do something if I DON'T exist, but just because I don't KNOW I exist does not preclude my taking action.)

I recommend reading an entry-level philosophy book, preferably something focusing on the philosophy of science. There's a nice compilation edited by Robeter Klee called "Scientific Inquiry" that I recommend. Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" would work as well. Despite the fact that you seem to have some irrational hatred of philosophy, you might learn something if you read some.

This argument has been done to death before by philosophers. No one has ever proven their own existance. Cogito ergo sum does not cut it.
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Cogito ergo sum does not cut it
Especially not in this case.
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Your type of arguments remind me of a dog chasing it's own tail.

Yesterday at 04:45 PM Zadok001 said this in Post #2

*sigh*

Shouting at us, insulting us, and using colored text does not enhance your argument. (And "Self-oxymoronic" is somewhat redundant, neh?)

"IF you DON'T KNOW if YOU EXIST, HOW CAN YOUR STATEMENT #1 EXIST in the FIRST PLACE SINCE YOU DON"T KNOW IF YOU EXIST?"

It may not. Perhaps I am a figment of your overactive imagination, along with the rest of empirical reality. Perhaps you are a figment of mine. Neither of us can show these statements to be false.

Note that I can 'do' things regardless of whether or not I know I exist. (I can't do something if I DON'T exist, but just because I don't KNOW I exist does not preclude my taking action.)

I recommend reading an entry-level philosophy book, preferably something focusing on the philosophy of science. There's a nice compilation edited by Robeter Klee called "Scientific Inquiry" that I recommend. Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" would work as well. Despite the fact that you seem to have some irrational hatred of philosophy, you might learn something if you read some.

This argument has been done to death before by philosophers. No one has ever proven their own existance. Cogito ergo sum does not cut it.

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