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Coprolites - a Falsification of the YEC Hypothesis
Coprolites: a Falsification of Young-Earth Creationism
General background information on the formation of fossilized dung, i.e. coprolites, can be found here and here.
Not only are coprolites found throughout the geologic column despite the fact that dung either floats or sinks (depending on species), but ones that unambiguously and completely falsify the flood are also. Allow me to explain.
Exhibit A.Eocene Epoch (around 50 mya) turtle coprolite from Madagascar.
How do we know this wasn't deposited in the flood? Look at it. See the cracks? What do they remind you of? That's right, dog poop. Dog poop that's been out in the air a long while, dried out and cracked. Something it can't do when it's underwater.
For these turtle-fouled Eocene rocks and younger rocks which lie above them, these facts require that they are at least post flood. One can follow the Eocene rocks from Madagascar around Africa and Eurasia and across to India. In the Ocean the link is unbroken.. The thickness of the rocks equal in age or younger (Post Paleocene) offshore India reaches 15 kilometers in thickness (see Curiale et al, AAPG86(2002):4:636). Thus the young-earth creationist, if he/she decides that the sediments I am speaking of are post-flood, must then account for 15 kilometers of post flood sediments offshore India. This is 50,000 feet of sediment. The young-earth creationist must ask himself how it is possible to non-catastrophically erode and deposit that much sediment within the past few thousand years. Clearly this is a difficulty. On the other hand if the young-earth creationist thinks that the sediments are flood sediments, they must explain how the turtles found dry land in the middle of the flood, so that lots of feces could be deposited and then have the time to dry out.
And that is the real poop on the Global Flood.
- Glenn Morton
Dried and cracked coprolites are found throughout the geologic layers, not just Eocene rocks. Needless to say, this puts a damper on any claims the layers were wholesale deposited by a flood...
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I think that most of us know that one is either intellectually honest or not and has come to the resultant conclusions by now. Those who value dogma over intellectual integrity probably will never be swayed by the evidence.
Huh? Carnivore activity supposedly began post-*Fall*. The Fall and the Flood are separate issues. I firmly believe young-earth creationism to be bunk, but I don't think this is a good argument.
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Huh? Carnivore activity supposedly began post-*Fall*
Some creationists have claimed that it began post-flood to get around the question of what the carnivores on the ark ate.
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Huh? Carnivore activity supposedly began post-*Fall*. The Fall and the Flood are separate issues. I firmly believe young-earth creationism to be bunk, but I don't think this is a good argument.
This issue here is not what the animals ate but how their poop survived and got dried out to be deposited in multiple layers during a worldwide flood.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to note that. The first one only applies to those creationists who think there was no carnivory before the flood to avoid having lions and others eating 1 of every herbivore.
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There are so very many falsification of the worldwide flood that it is easy to get distracted. Why don't we try to stick to the point you brought up on your first post and let the YECs tell us how dried out coprolites can be fit nicely into the YEC framework. I'm sure we could see poop getting dried out and getting dispersed though thousands of feet of sediment and fossilized during a flood that covered the entire earth with water if we could just get over our old earth bias and of course had logical explanations for all those thing that seem impossible to fit with a worldwide flood. Here is a good place for the YECs to start. This should be an easy one compared to some of the others.
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