Good News For Creationism

Jutsuka · #11 8th April 2003, 03:46 AM

Today at 08:30 AM Follower of Christ said this in Post #9

Well, i agree too.

i dont want some Wiccan witch or some athiest being allowed to teach my kids whatever trash they may believe.

I also want this foreign ''culture'' garbage taken out too.
I dont want my kids taught all about Islam against their will.

If they need culture, I'll teach them at home.
Keep the schools to reading, riting and rithmetic.

Teaching schoolchildren about the history, culture and religon of other people is the best way to counter intolerance and hatred. Why are you so opposed to your children being taught what others belive or how they live?

Freedom777 · #12 8th April 2003, 03:54 AM

Ya know i here all this talk about creationism .Heres the truth of the matter.Creationism is a theory. Evolution GTE is nothing more than a hypotheisis. Theories belong in science,hypotheises belong in the garbage.Did someone turn out the lights.

Jutsuka · #13 8th April 2003, 04:05 AM

Creationism is such utter tripe that it does not even deserve to be called garbage. Creationist countine to returgirate the same old tired arguments even after they have been refuted beyond a shadow of a doubt, they refuse to actually learn anything about the science involved in evolution, when they've been backed in to a corner they resort to outrigh lying or they simply avoid the issue. And this you call science?! You have no notion of what science means! I have never heard of a creationist submitting a paper for peer review and critisim, or for that matter actually doing any proper research!

euphoric · #14 8th April 2003, 04:10 AM

Today at 07:54 AM Freedom777 said this in Post #12

Ya know i here all this talk about creationism .Heres the truth of the matter.Creationism is a theory. Evolution GTE is nothing more than a hypotheisis. Theories belong in science,hypotheises belong in the garbage.Did someone turn out the lights.

You can keep repeating this nonsense until you're blue in the face, but it won't ever be true.  This article and the events it describes are yet another example of the willingness of people to have dogmatic opinions on topics they know squat about.  It's hardly surprising, we have YECs on this board who don't know their head from a hole in the ground when it comes to biology, genetics, geology, paleontology, astronomy or physics, yet they wax philosophic about what is and isn't science.  These school board members screwed their kids over on this one whether you want to admit it or not. Lying to our kids in a feeble effort to try to perpetuate our own religious dogma is a huge disservice to them.  The fact that you would celebrate that disservice is sad.

-brett

Arikay · #15 8th April 2003, 04:10 AM

You Are absolutely right.

Your supposed version of the "GTE" is just a hypothesis. Luckily your version of the "GTE" is not what scientists believe. So the fact that your theory of evolution is just a hypothesis, means nothing to science.

Your also right, Creationism was a theory, that was falsified along time ago.

A challenge for you then, If creationism is correct, please go to this thread: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/41209-1.html

Read the first message in the thread, and show us how creationism acounts for many of the things listed in that thread.

Yesterday at 11:54 PM Freedom777 said this in Post #12

Ya know i here all this talk about creationism .Heres the truth of the matter.Creationism is a theory. Evolution GTE is nothing more than a hypotheisis. Theories belong in science,hypotheises belong in the garbage.Did someone turn out the lights.

ikester7579 · #16 8th April 2003, 04:19 AM

Seems to me some people in here are afraid that the findings of science might be challenged by this. I for one don't. If creation is so falible, then being able to have the freedom to research it in science class should be welcomed. Unless you think it might replace science because there might be some truth to it.
All I'm saying is, even God gives us the freedom to choose. Putting creation in school gives us the choice and the chance to compare. Besides what would be wrong with that?

To take away the freedom to choose, may one day take away your freedom to promote what you believe in.

Jutsuka · #17 8th April 2003, 04:25 AM

CREATION IS NOT SCIENCE! If you want creation taught in school, then it should be taught where it belongs, religious studies, NOT in science class.

ikester7579 · #18 8th April 2003, 04:31 AM

Today at 03:10 AM Arikay said this in Post #15

You Are absolutely right.

Your supposed version of the "GTE" is just a hypothesis. Luckily your version of the "GTE" is not what scientists believe. So the fact that your theory of evolution is just a hypothesis, means nothing to science.

Your also right, Creationism was a theory, that was falsified along time ago.

A challenge for you then, If creationism is correct, please go to this thread: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/41209-1.html

Read the first message in the thread, and show us how creationism acounts for many of the things listed in that thread.

How much if science is theory and how much is proven fact. Just taken a guess I'd say around 50% is theory and the rest is fact or near to it. So does that make science only half true? Because theories like evolution have been around for a long time but yet have not been proven. But yet science treats it as if it were fact?

Why is not creation treated this way? It is not been totally proven or disproven. Sounds like evolution. But why is it treated different? Maybe bias?

  If not, then please explain what the difference is.

 

euphoric · #19 8th April 2003, 04:39 AM

Today at 08:31 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #18

How much if science is theory and how much is proven fact. Just taken a guess I'd say around 50% is theory and the rest is fact or near to it. So does that make science only half true? Because theories like evolution have been around for a long time but yet have not been proven. But yet science treats it as if it were fact?

Why is not creation treated this way? It is not been totally proven or disproven. Sounds like evolution. But why is it treated different? Maybe bias?   If not, then please explain what the difference is. 

Let me be the fifty thousandth person on this board to correct the YEC lie about the definition of a scientific theory.  A theory in science is a well tested, well supported explanation of a set of observed phenomena.  It does not mean "guess."  Any attempt by YECs to equate the two from this point forward should be properly identified as a bald-faced lie.  Given the number of times this distinction has been explained to them, they are without excuse.

-brett

ikester7579 · #20 8th April 2003, 04:40 AM

Today at 03:25 AM Jutsuka said this in Post #17

CREATION IS NOT SCIENCE! If you want creation taught in school, then it should be taught where it belongs, religious studies, NOT in science class.

Your absolutly right! Science will never be able to understand the spiritual realm. Then a new class should be formed called advanced science. The study of the super natural. LOL

And sense creation does deal in the science realm(the formation of the entire universe and all life). What's the difference? Besides God being in the picture?