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10th November 2006, 05:06 PM
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Some people are still a little confused about denying the right of sickness to be in your body.
If you have symptoms in your body and you say you don't what are you doing? exercising your faith?
actually your lying.
We do not deny the reality of symptoms - we deny their right to be in our body.
I gave this analogy in another thread: If you stuck a knife through your hand would you deny the knife is there or do something to get the knife out?
If you deny the knife is there your a crazy liar, the only sane thing to do is get it out of your body - sickness is no different - sickness is a physical manifestation of a weapon stuck in your body just as a knife through the hand is a physical manifestation of a weapon stuck in your body.
It is not a lie to say I am healed by the stripes of Jesus and I deny the right of this illness to be in my body but it is a lie to deny that the symptom is there.
We are not denying the reality of symptoms we are denying its right to continue to stay in our body.
* We do not deny symptoms.
* We do deny a symptoms right to continue in our body.
Now even though we do not deny symptoms, we do not go the other extreme and make a confession out of our symptoms - if all you do is talk about your symptoms all day then you have now made your symptoms into a confession.
To tell other people you have symptoms so they know specifially what to pray for or to tell a doctor what your symptoms are is not a confession, to admit you have the symptom is not a confession.
To dwell continually, complain and talk about your symptoms over and over until you start to accept a symptom as being part of you instead of a foreign object or weapon in your body you have made it a confession.
* We do not deny symptoms.
* We do deny the right of a symptom to continue in our body.
* Admitting we have a symptom is not a confession.
* Dwelling on and talking about a symptom until we believe its a part of us instead of a foreign object or weapon that does not belong in our body is a confession.
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10th November 2006, 05:10 PM
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10th November 2006, 05:50 PM
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10th November 2006, 06:17 PM
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10th November 2006, 06:45 PM
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10th November 2006, 06:58 PM
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Reps: 23,781,182,278,118,932 (power: 23,781,182,278,152) | | Originally Posted by Lottedah Right on. Our words shape this.. shape our world.. scientists are backing this up and its been a pagan teaching for a long time..now if only more christians would catch on..
This is not pagan this is Biblical. Confessing what God says in His Word. Some confuse that with "positive thinking " that is in other religions and is not Biblical. That is not based on God's word and we do not get involved with "mind power". Its a counterfeit of the true. | 
10th November 2006, 07:01 PM
|  | Senior Veteran 56  | | Join Date: 13th September 2006 Location: Austin, Texas
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LOL Yeah, I think she meant something else too.
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10th November 2006, 07:04 PM
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He has promised to forgive all our sins and heal all our diseases. By his stripes we were healed (already happened) . Therefore the sickness is just trespassing where it does not belong.
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10th November 2006, 07:05 PM
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I am only now just learning this.. but I have my monthly right now.. and usually I get it so bad.. with bad pain and cramping in my stomach.. but I have seen that sickness is not from God.. it is part of the curse.. and well I rebuked it when I felt sick with my monthly..
I said.. I don't have to have this.. pain be gone.. Jesus body was broken so I could be healed.. By His stripes I was healed!!
And it went!! Praise God \0/ yes a few times the pain returned.. but I did exaclty the same thing.. and it went away..
I don't have to suffer when having my menstral period.. Just because I always have done!! \0/
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10th November 2006, 07:08 PM
|  | Senior Veteran 56  | | Join Date: 13th September 2006 Location: Austin, Texas
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Reps: 623,065 (power: 633) | | Originally Posted by Diatheke I gave this analogy in another thread: If you stuck a knife through your hand would you deny the knife is there or do something to get the knife out?
If you deny the knife is there your a crazy liar, the only sane thing to do is get it out of your body - sickness is no different - sickness is a physical manifestation of a weapon stuck in your body just as a knife through the hand is a physical manifestation of a weapon stuck in your body.
It is not a lie to say I am healed by the stripes of Jesus and I deny the right of this illness to be in my body but it is a lie to deny that the symptom is there.
*runs around with a knife in her hand* ahhhhhh It hurts. It hurts. errr. I mean, there is no knife in my hand!!! *holds her hand up* My hand just hurts, but there is NO knife.
What knife?? I don't have a knife in my hand. Oh... that knife... wellll I'm suffering for Jesus. Do I want it out?? Noooo, I'ma suffering for Jesus... lemme lone.
*pops Ibuprophen for the pain*
No, I can't pull it out, cos the knife isn't really there, annnnd I'm a suffering for Jesus!
Man, I wish this pain would go away. No knife, no knife, no knife in Jesus name. Nope, there is no knife. But, there is pain!!!
(LOL sorry I couldn't resist playing around with that one.)
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