What Is Evolution

It is vitally important that words such as" evolution" be used accurately and consistently.The theory of "evolution" that the evolutionists are really promoting,and which creationists oppose,is the idea that particles turned into people over time, without any need for an intelligent designer. The evolutionist Kerkut accurately defined this "general theory of evolution" (GTE) as "the theory that all living forms in the world have arisen from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form."He continued: "The evidence which supports this is NOT sufficiently strong to allow us to consider it as anything more than a WORKING HYPOTHESIS."

However, many evolutioniary propagandists are guilty of the deceitful practice of EQUIVOCATION, that is, switching the meaning of a single word(evolution) part way through an argument. A common tactic, "bait-and-switch," is simply to produce examples of change over time, call this "evolution," than imply that the GTE is thereby proven or even essential,and creation disproved.

The main scientific objection to GTE is NOT that changes occur through time,and neither is it about the size of the change. The key issue is the type of change required.

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What is evolution?

If you want to know what evolution is, May I suggect an encyclopedia.
I would link to Wiki but its currently down.

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The theroy of evolution by variation and selection within populations does not cover the chemical processes occurring before populations of self-replicating individuals appeared. You can dredge around the definitions all you like until you find one that does, but abiogenesis isn't covered by the theory of evolution, and all the insisting in the world on your part isn't going to change that.

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Its amazing how many times evolution has been described to Freedom, and yet he ignores every post and keeps posting false information.

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Well maybe not for you,but it is for the ones promoting it.And by the scientific community at large.

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Descarte, “It is truth very certain that, when it is not in our power to determine what is true, we ought to follow what is most probable.”

Arikay in not talking about your def of evolution ,I am talking about the scientific community at large.Now do you understand that.

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Descarte, “It is truth very certain that, when it is not in our power to determine what is true, we ought to follow what is most probable.”

I might be wrong here, but his def of ToE is the same one all in the science community uses (or most of everyone)..

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Yes, and the definition you are giving is not the one the scientific comunity uses.

From talkorigins article, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-...-biology.html, (also includes some common missconceptions of evolution.):

"What is Evolution?

Evolution is a change in the gene pool of a population over time. A gene is a hereditary unit that can be passed on unaltered for many generations. The gene pool is the set of all genes in a species or population.

The English moth, Biston betularia, is a frequently cited example of observed evolution. [evolution: a change in the gene pool] In this moth there are two color morphs, light and dark. H. B. D. Kettlewell found that dark moths constituted less than 2% of the population prior to 1848. The frequency of the dark morph increased in the years following. By 1898, the 95% of the moths in Manchester and other highly industrialized areas were of the dark type. Their frequency was less in rural areas. The moth population changed from mostly light colored moths to mostly dark colored moths. The moths' colorwas primarily determined by a single gene. [gene: a hereditary unit] So, the change in frequency of dark colored moths represented a change in the gene pool. [gene pool: the set all of genes in a population] This change was, by definition, evolution.

The increase in relative abundance of the dark type was due to natural selection. The late eighteen hundreds was the time of England's industrial revolution. Soot from factories darkened the birch trees the moths landed on. Against a sooty background, birds could see the lighter colored moths better and ate more of them. As a result, more dark moths survived until reproductive age and left offspring. The greater number of offspring left by dark moths is what caused their increase in frequency. This is an example of natural selection.

Populations evolve. [evolution: a change in the gene pool] In order to understand evolution, it is necessary to view populations as a collection of individuals, each harboring a different set of traits. A single organism is never typical of an entire population unless there is no variation within that population. Individual organisms do not evolve, they retain the same genes throughout their life. When a population is evolving, the ratio of different genetic types is changing -- each individual organism within a population does not change. For example, in the previous example, the frequency of black moths increased; the moths did not turn from light to gray to dark in concert. The process of evolution can be summarized in three sentences: Genes mutate. [gene: a hereditary unit] Individuals are selected. Populations evolve.

Evolution can be divided into microevolution and macroevolution. The kind of evolution documented above is microevolution. Larger changes, such as when a new species is formed, are called macroevolution. Some biologists feel the mechanisms of macroevolution are different from those of microevolutionary change. Others think the distinction between the two is arbitrary -- macroevolution is cumulative microevolution.

The word evolution has a variety of meanings. The fact that all organisms are linked via descent to a common ancestor is often called evolution. The theory of how the first living organisms appeared is often called evolution. This should be called abiogenesis. And frequently, people use the word evolution when they really mean natural selection -- one of the many mechanisms of evolution. "

One thing to note, is that I believe since this has been written (in 1996) the line between Micro and macro evolution has been blured and both have been shown.

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So am I. And I know a lot more of them than you do.

Wonder if Lucaspa (a bona fide member of the scientific community at large) will agree with your definition of his definition.

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Natural selection is evolution but it is not GTE, understand, I'm not going to bring it up any more.Didn't you read my thread when i speak of evolution thats what i am talking about. Natural selection is not GTE

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