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Old 6th April 2003, 06:11 PM
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Today at 04:58 PM Freedom777 said this in Post #9

I believe in a literal genesis,It does not matter how much Creation scientists may seem to slip and fall. I believe they are headed in the right direction to understanding The true history of the earth,as revealed to us in scripture.I trust my God because He Is WORTHY TO BE TRUSTED. And He will not let me down.
What you believe in, then, is yourself, and not God.  "literal genesis" is a human interpretation of the Bible, not God or His Word.

You are forgetting that God created.  That means the earth scientists study is God's Creation, and is just as much His Word as the Bible.  What you are doing is turning God into a liar, because you are setting God against God -- His Creation against His Word.

Of course, it's not realy "His Word", is it? Instead, it's your word, or your belief in a literal Genesis. 

So, Freedom, how does it feel to set yourself above God?  Comfortable there?
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Old 6th April 2003, 09:11 PM
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Today at 04:58 PM Freedom777 said this in Post #9

I believe in a literal genesis,It does not matter how much Creation scientists may seem to slip and fall. I believe they are headed in the right direction to understanding The true history of the earth,as revealed to us in scripture.
Except they aren't as some of us have demonstrated in this thread and in others. The only thing that puts them in the right direction is to lie, conveniently omit crucial evidence that is most problematic for their claims, ignore basic distinctions in geology any introductory student could catch, and oversimplify geologic observations so that their actual complexities that exist in reality no longer pose a problem for them. It's intellectual dishonesty whether they--or you--know it or not.

I trust my God because He Is WORTHY TO BE TRUSTED. And He will not let me down.
You mean you trust your interpretation even if it is demonstrably false. It is an interpretation of what you think your god says.
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Old 6th April 2003, 09:52 PM
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I believe they are headed in the right direction to understanding The true history of the earth,as revealed to us in scripture.I trust my God because He Is WORTHY TO BE TRUSTED. And He will not let me down.
Remind us again why you're placing the account of the history of the Earth as inspired by God in scripture ahead of the account of the history of the Earth as created by God directly?
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The problem as I see it is that modern young earth creationists do not seem to be_trying to convince anyone who knows the science involved.
Well, of course not. This isn't really a scientific argument, it's an ideological and political ones. I don't think it's any coincidence that when you ask creationists HOW this God-centred science is supposed to work, you don't tend to get responses. That isn't the point. The point is public opinion, not the support of the scientific community.
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Today at 05:11 PM lucaspa said this in Post #11



What you believe in, then, is yourself, and not God.  "literal genesis" is a human interpretation of the Bible, not God or His Word.

You are forgetting that God created.  That means the earth scientists study is God's Creation, and is just as much His Word as the Bible.  What you are doing is turning God into a liar, because you are setting God against God -- His Creation against His Word.

Of course, it's not realy "His Word", is it? Instead, it's your word, or your belief in a literal Genesis. 

So, Freedom, how does it feel to set yourself above God?  Comfortable there?

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This type of psychology may work with your friends, but we see through it and it is rather insulting to even see it.

The BIBLE is Gods word. The earth is Gods Creation.
If you wish to worship the creation instead of the Creator that is your decision, but please stop using this pathetic type of persuasion tactic.
It makes you look a little childish.
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Which bible is gods words?

Is the bible about science or spirituality?
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