For YEC's

lucaspa · #21 6th April 2003, 05:24 PM

Today at 04:20 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #18 

Fallen man that is, I can tell you all about the person God created Adam and Eve to be, before the fall from Grace. If you know that, then you will know the sort of person He wants us to be now. As God is doing a work of redemption and restoration.

Can you quote those verses from Genesis that tells you "all about the person God created Adam and Eve to be"?

How does accepting evolution interfere with redemption?

JohnR7 · #22 6th April 2003, 05:29 PM

Today at 04:22 PM lucaspa said this in Post #19

Hitler justified his atrocities using creationism.

Making Hitler a enemy of creationism. Do you think these things though before you put them on here? Sense there is only black and white, creationist and evolutionist, then Hitler was a evolutionist that was quite creative in his attack again creationism.

You are for God or against Him.

Your for creation or evolution.

Your justified before God or your trying to justify yourself.

Holy or unholy.

pure or defiled.

Walking in love or walking in hate.

Either walking in sin or walking free from sin.

Your either walking in the truth or your in error.

Your either with Christ our against Him.

I can give you a few hundred more of these if you want.

 

 

lucaspa · #23 6th April 2003, 05:30 PM

Yesterday at 10:27 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #9

I know your type, you just dont like opposition.

You cant understand scripture because you choose not to.
Its all open to you if you want to ask God for His truth.
It is denied you only because you do not search with a true desire to know God.

Dont expect that your scientific approach has all the answers. It doesnt

FoC, can you give me an example where science says it has "all the answers"?

What does understanding scripture have to do with accepting evolution?  Whether you agree with particular doctrines or not, it's not credible to say that Pope John Paul II, the Bishop of Oxford, and the 23 ministers and rabbis who sued to keep YEC out of public schools "can't understand scripture".

If Arikay wants to be an atheist, let him.  As long as he doesn't try to preach that atheism as science, then it's his personal belief.

I would say it's your problem because you can't accept that God created by a method different from your fallible human interpretation of the Bible.

JohnR7 · #24 6th April 2003, 05:32 PM

Today at 04:24 PM lucaspa said this in Post #21

Can you quote those verses from Genesis that tells you "all about the person God created Adam and Eve to be"? 

Here is a list of 142 things that make up the mind of Christ. This is a good place to begin a study on the mind we are to have as a new creation in Christ.

http://home.neo.rr.com/johnr7/MindChrist/

JohnR7 · #25 6th April 2003, 05:39 PM

Today at 04:24 PM lucaspa said this in Post #21

How does accepting evolution interfere with redemption?

What do you mean by "evolution"? Thing evolve. Transportation has evolved in the last 100 years. The wheel has evolved in the last 100 years. Unless you do not think air filled rubber tires is a improvement over a wheel made out of wood and metal.

Follower of Christ · #26 6th April 2003, 11:29 PM

Today at 04:23 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #20

There did seem to be a strong link between Darwinism and the Nazi regime. With their whole concept that they were the superior race and the Africans were monkeys. I wonder where they got that from?

But now you feel there is also a link between neo darwinism and deo nazism?

From what I have understood Hitler believed that there were two races in the beginning.
The Aryan race and some race of ape-like people (whose name escapes me).
The Ape-men could not defeat the Aryans in straightforward conflict, so they decided to breed them out.

Hitler believed that the Jews were the closest decendants to the Ape-people and thought that by exterminating the Jews, the process would begin in ''cleansing'' the world of all but the Aryan race.