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5th April 2003 at 01:23 PM Arikay said this in Post #42
So, I wonder what god thinks about faith in a human written and only god *inspired* book that has been obviously changed and soiled by humans hands.
He's not happy when alterations are made to authorized copies of his word.
You are failing to understand the bible and God's plan for mankind, when you understand the theme and God's will you will understand which bibles are authorized to preserve and correctly transfer God's *inspired* word from the original texts.
5th April 2003 at 01:07 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #41
Nice try.
Do you all think by using some child psychology twist on words that you will convince me against my Bible.
Sorry, my faith in His truth is much stronger than your uprovable theory.
Again, nice try.
Maybe you can draw in some unsuspecting new christian with that ploy.
Satan is prevelant and good in doing these kinds of things, what better way to fool the masses than with incomplete and flawed theories that the unenlightened man will buy at face value with no knowledge of the true source behind these fallible theories.
We don't want a new unsuspecting Christian to lose faith because of theories that are secretly modeled in controlled labs, and don't hold any preponderance of proof to discredit the bible or God's word.
It is surprising to me how many people will reject God yet accept man's unprovable theories.
Look at the big picture and step out of the limited 3 dimensional box that hinders spiritual sight. (not talking to you Follower)
5th April 2003 at 01:46 PM Arikay said this in Post #45
So god is mad at King James?
Not necessarily, the King James Bible was translated when english speaking people needed an english version that they could understand in english terms.
If you research just a little, you will see that the theme of God's plan is The Kingdom that God plans to give to Christ, which will be a monarchy.
Since God's Kingdom is an obvious Monarchy (heirarchy), it is safe to say that the King James translation would be the only option, first because it was translated under the King James monarchy, and second, it has been the prevelant translation for 400 years give or take.
Considering God is omni - everything, it stands to reason that God would not allow the followers of the past 400 years to be deceived by a mistranslated copy of his word.
Since God's Kingdom is an obvious Monarchy (heirarchy), it is safe to say that the King James translation would be the only option, first because it was translated under the King James monarchy, and second, it has been the prevelant translation for 400 years give or take.
That's insane troll logic, just because God's Kingdom is a monarchy does not mean He needs a monarchy to translate for Him.
Considering God is omni - everything, it stands to reason that God would not allow the followers of the past 400 years to be deceived by a mistranslated copy of his word.
I don't think you should assume what God would or wouldn't do, He works in mysterious ways, and usually His methods are unexpected (choosing an unexperienced boy to fight a giant for instance).
I don't understand the whole "KJV only" thing, it seems stupid to me, what makes King James more special than any other translator?
We don't want a new unsuspecting Christian to lose faith because of theories that are secretly modeled in controlled labs, and don't hold any preponderance of proof to discredit the bible or God's word.
Science/Evolution never tries to prove or disprove God or discredit the Bible, it discredits certain interpretations but not the whole thing. People lose faith when they're told Genesis is literal by some Christians then go into the real world and see that reality does not correspond to a literal Genesis.
We don't want a new unsuspecting Christian to lose faith because of theories that are secretly modeled in controlled labs, and don't hold any preponderance of proof to discredit the bible or God's word.
I don't understand why the faith of creationists depends so much on a literal Genesis, I also don't understand why they ignore God's creation, ie reality. Literal Genesis does not fit with reality, therefore it is FANTASY.
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Last edited by wblastyn; 5th April 2003 at 06:03 PM.
5th April 2003 at 01:59 PM Arikay said this in Post #48
Bafish: If you research a little, you will find that there are quite a few misstranslations in the KJV and an entire section not included.
Alleged mistranslations.
Since the Hebrew alphabet does not contain vowels, it cannot be proven to be incorrect, that is why the bible promises a correct version for every generation.
Maybe the Apocrypha wasn't included because God didn't inspire it to be conveyed to this generation?
4th April 2003 at 09:14 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #16
Interesting...
So you dont believe in anything that you cant prove absolutely?
You dont have ''faith'' that all the evidence points to evolution, but cannot PROVE it?
At least we are men enough to admit we believe in something that we cant prove.
If I cant get one evolutionist to admit that he has ''faith'' in that which he cannot prove, I will die a happy man
Prove what? A scientific theory can't be proven. So I guess I would also be man enough to say I accept something that can't be proven.
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