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Old 4th April 2003, 05:07 PM
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Freedom777,

Like I've said before, if evolution is a religion, then so is gravity, quantum mechanics and France (as per the same criteria needed to classify evolution as a religion).

If you really and truly cannot see the flaw in this line of reasoning, then I don't know what else to say.

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One very basic difference is that evolutionary biology, like the rest of science, is a method-driven process whereas creationism is a result-driven process. If creationists didn't have the stuff in the Bible to tell them the answers they needed to reach, they'd be lost when presented with the data.
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What is your version of GTE?
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Here is a good overview:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

It includes information about creationism too, I would consider it an unbaised source of info. I would suggest reading it.

Although I would consider it more biased, www.talkorigins.org is a very good site that goes more indepth and also adresses creationist claims. It is also much larger than the brief overview given at Wiki, and would take awhile to read half of their stuff.

The Theory of Evolution is different than what you posted in the General Theory of Evolution thread.



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4th April 2003 at 04:01 PM Arikay said this in Post #10

Yes freedom, it isnt a religion. No matter how many time creationist groups claim it is, it isnt. Your version of the GTE is wrong.

Creationism is based on a religion, Evolution is Not. So creationist groups try to equate evolution with religion because it makes it on a level playing field, however they are not on a level playing field. Evolution has real evidence to support it.

Interesting...

So you dont believe in anything that you cant prove absolutely?

You dont have ''faith'' that all the evidence points to evolution, but cannot PROVE it?

At least we are men enough to admit we believe in something that we cant prove.

If I cant get one evolutionist to admit that he has ''faith'' in that which he cannot prove, I will die a happy man
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LOL Follower, thanks for putting words into my mouth...

Ironically my religion (philosophy, whatever) requires quite a bit of faith. I just dont pretend that it has anything to do with science. I keep it seperate.

Quite frankly it requires more faith than literal biblicalism, because there are less things defined so perfectly.
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It is not faith, and by calling it faith ya'll are trivializing the foundation of your belief system.

I do not have faith the sun will rise tomorrow, I have reasonable evidence that it will since it has every day of my life and the millions of days before my life began. I have the ability to verify if I wish in that I am chatting with someone online who lives in the other hemisphere who can verify the sun is up there. We do not have faith in evolution, we have evidence that indicates it happened and theory that explains how it happened...until or unless evidence is produced that falsifies it I will accept it as the most likely explanation.
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