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Old 4th April 2003, 05:09 AM
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Creation, where's the Proof.

Get the answer here, http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4179.asp
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Great link Freedom.
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Old 4th April 2003, 05:25 AM
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Although from all the times ive looked at AIG they still seem to missinterpret facts and make assumptions, I do have to say that they are probably one of the more respectable Creationists sites out there. Much better all around than some others, *Cough* dino *cough*
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The problem is that if you look at the evidence available, you have to say God did some pretty strange thing to make it fit with the creation myth used by YECs. For example, using the common creationist explanation that the geologic column was laid down in the flood and the order of the animals in the fossil record was created by their ability and intelligence to avoid the flood as long as possible, you have to explain why God put only non-flowering plants at the lowest levels and flowering ones higher up. Further, you have to explain how a flood could fossilize easily disturbed things such as nests and raindrops in certain layers that are covered by many more.

Now, of course, an omnipotent God coupld have made it look the way it does, but it would take a whole lot of mini-miracles - micro managing the cosmos seems like a strange roll for God.
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4th April 2003 at 09:59 AM Joe_Sixpack said

The problem is that if you look at the evidence available, you have to say God did some pretty strange thing to make it fit with the creation myth used by YECs. For example, using the common creationist explanation that the geologic column was laid down in the flood and the order of the animals in the fossil record was created by their ability and intelligence to avoid the flood as long as possible, you have to explain why God put only non-flowering plants at the lowest levels and flowering ones higher up. Further, you have to explain how a flood could fossilize easily disturbed things such as nests and raindrops in certain layers that are covered by many more.

Now, of course, an omnipotent God coupld have made it look the way it does, but it would take a whole lot of mini-miracles - micro managing the cosmos seems like a strange roll for God.
Not only would it be a strange role, it would be a highly deceptive one as well.  Add to the list angular unconformities, biogeography, shared endogenous retroviruses and a host of other things we've discussed lately and the level of God's deception, if the Earth is in fact young, is mindblowing.

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The evidence for creation is crearly seen through out the Earth and the heavens,I pray that the Lord will open Your Heart to that.
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Unfortunatly freedom, I have yet to see it.

Do you think you can post some of this evidence?

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4th April 2003 at 10:04 AM euphoric said this in Post #5



Not only would it be a strange role, it would be a highly deceptive one as well.  Add to the list angular unconformities, biogeography, shared endogenous retroviruses and a host of other things we've discussed lately and the level of God's deception, if the Earth is in fact young, is mindblowing.

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Btw doesn't the bible say that god doesn't lie?
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4th April 2003 at 05:35 AM Freedom777 said this in Post #6

The evidence for creation is crearly seen through out the Earth and the heavens,I pray that the Lord will open Your Heart to that.

If it were that simple, then AiG is wasting its time posting "proof," now isn't it? They should get out of the science business and just keep on praying for us scoffers...
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