Creation, where's the Proof.

Pete Harcoff · #51 4th April 2003, 03:49 PM

4th April 2003 at 03:45 PM Freedom777 said this in Post #49

Christ said, if you are not for me than you are against me.There is no neutral ground whether you believe it or not.

Doesn't matter. We're all destined to be devoured by Cthulhu anyway.

Taffsadar · #52 4th April 2003, 03:53 PM

4th April 2003 at 08:42 PM Freedom777 said this in Post #48

Thats impossible all peoplr are biased.

Yes and the first evolutionists were christian... And many evolutionists are christian.

Is it just me or does it smell pro christian bias?

Arikay · #53 4th April 2003, 03:58 PM

Yeah, I mean, if this really is a religions battle between the atheists and the Theists, then the atheists are losing badly as they are agreeing with many of the theists.

Since many christians believe in evolution, why dont the atheists go find another theory to attach onto, I mean if this is a religions battle, these atheists really dont know how to fight it well.

Nathan Poe · #54 4th April 2003, 07:15 PM

4th April 2003 at 11:52 AM Follower of Christ said this in Post #36

Ken Hamm shows how the ''evidence'' can fit into a young earth.
Thats about all I have seen of AIG.

Hamm chooses to quote-mine, ignore inconvenient facts, pander to popular misconceptions and play off the ignorance and loyalty of his audience. Using that methodology, one could argue the existence of Santa Claus.

No one says he is inspired, thats YOUR twisting again.
He has decided to help show that Gods word can be explained just as written in Genesis.

You seemed pretty quick to support his exorbitant salary with Scripture. Would you consider him a worthy representative of God's Word?

Or is he just another fallable human with a fallable theory, which you have no intention of investigating because it just so happens to rationalize the dogma you already believe?

If it offends you so, then stop looking at it.

Ignorance always offends me, especially when labeled "Holy -- Do not question, just shut your mouth and do as you're told." I have no choice but to look at it when someone tries to shoehorn it into my schools, my government, my science, and every aspect of my daily life.

YOu are right, only born again christians will go to heaven.
You act like your a separated from this by our choice, you are not.

I am separated from this by MY choice.

If the price of admission is ignorance of the world around us,

of ignoring the creation in favor of a book,

of denying the one great facility that separates us from the animals, knowledge (A trait God apparantly didn't want us to have, according to Genesis),

then you can keep it.

"An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise." --Victor Hugo.

You can be on that road with us at any point you decide to.
We would love to have more company

Room for one more at the well of ignorance... hmmm.... looks like Kool-Aid to me.

Follower of Christ · #55 4th April 2003, 08:36 PM

"An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise." --Victor Hugo.

FOC:
very arrogant ignorance in this comment.

Was this quoted to sound intelligent ?

Kind of like cutting off ones nose to spite ones face if you ask me.

Follower of Christ · #56 4th April 2003, 08:47 PM

4th April 2003 at 11:55 AM euphoric said this in Post #38

No Jim Baker and Benny Hinn don't make Hamm wrong, the fact that he takes two hundred grand from the ministry coffers makes him wrong.

-brett

This is where I have to draw the line.

I wonder how much some of your higher ups in the evolution league make every year. I dont see you crying to them about it.

I find it quite offensive that you are sticking your nose into what Ken Hamm makes.

Its just a cheap shot as you have run out of other ideas for an attack, so you feel that pointing out his income will prove your point.

It doesnt. It makes you look childish and for lack of a better word, ignorant.

If christians feel that they are giving Ken Hamm $200,000 to do what he does, it is NONE of your business at all.

And guess what, whether its justified in your eyes is NOT important to us in the slightest.

Grow up and go back to trying to prove some real issue

Osiris · #57 4th April 2003, 08:52 PM

Natha Poe has a point, and I think his Victor Hugo quote did fit nice with what he had to say and was not put there just to sound intelligent.
Imagine everyone in this world was christian, there would be no science -- we would forbid for anyone to study it or learn it because it will only make the student fall away from christendom. There would be no medicines, and people will easily get sick and die, and would be treated as a God-sent plague. We wouldn't be able to travel to other places as we do today, because people wouldn't have invented cars or airplanes. An example would be Amish Country in philadelphia...

Osiris · #58 4th April 2003, 08:58 PM

[b]4th April 2003 at 08:47 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #56

If christians feel that they are giving Ken Hamm $200,000 to do what he does, it is NONE of your business at all.

Is that the same Jesus was paid?? I think Jesus did it for free, hmm, I think thats how it should be done, shouldn't it??

or at least that's how Jesus wanted it to be done... 

Follower of Christ · #59 4th April 2003, 08:59 PM

4th April 2003 at 08:52 PM Osiris said this in Post #57

Natha Poe has a point, and I think his Victor Hugo quote did fit nice with what he had to say and was not put there just to sound intelligent.
Imagine everyone in this world was christian, there would be no science -- we would forbid for anyone to study it or learn it because it will only make the student fall away from christendom. There would be no medicines, and people will easily get sick and die, and would be treated as a God-sent plague. We wouldn't be able to travel to other places as we do today, because people wouldn't have invented cars or airplanes. An example would be Amish Country in philadelphia...

You people are as fickle as evolution theory.
One minute you say that it was christians who were the scientists who founded some of this theory, and then you make a statement like that

Follower of Christ · #60 4th April 2003, 09:04 PM

4th April 2003 at 08:58 PM Osiris said this in Post #58

Is that the same Jesus was paid?? I think Jesus did it for free, hmm, I think thats how it should be done, shouldn't it?? or at least that's how Jesus wanted it to be done... 

"Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in Word and doctrine. For the Scripture says, "You shall not muzzle the ox treading out grain," and, "The laborer is worthy of his reward." "
(1 Timothy 5:17-18 MKJV)

Funny it says ''double honor''.
Twice as much.

I wonder how many secular scientists make $100,000