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Old 30th March 2003, 08:13 PM
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Helium 4?

From http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=art...amp;specific=2 

The amount of Helium 4 in the atmosphere, divided by the formation rate on earth, gives only 175,000 years. (God may have created the earth with some helium which would reduce the age more.) (1, p. 151; 6, p. 42; 9, p. 25)
How dose this fit into evoultion? Or why is it incorrect?
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See: http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...ts/helium.html

One thing to point out is that even AIG (www.answersingenesis.org) dont think Dr Dino's arguments are good creationist arguments.
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It is incorrect since the Earth produces helium naturally and therefore replaces some of it that escapes.

Since the Earth produces helium you can't do a simple step down in your age calculations like they did here.
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Tim Thompson has also addressed this argument in detail.
http://www.tim-thompson.com/resp3.html

If the calculation is done with Argon 40 which has no mechanism to escape the atmosphere an age consistent with a 4.5 billion year old earth is found. (H.A. Shillibeer and R.D. Russell Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta, v.8, pp.16-21 (1955)).

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Um - if you're interested in science, would it be too radical to suggest that you get hold of some actual science books rather than depending on creation ministries whose stated purpose is primarily to affirm scripture? Or are you really not interested in science?
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Re: Helium 4?

Today at 07:13 PM Jon said this in Post #1



How dose this fit into evoultion? Or why is it incorrect?
Jon, Frumious and Lewis gave you the answers.  Might I suggest you read talkorigins before you ask here? 

When dealing with any extrapolation, you have to make sure that the compound isn't being removed from the system. In this case, helium is light enough (remember helium balloons) that individual helium molecules can move fast enough to achieve escape velocity.

Remember this removal from the system when you come to the salts in the ocean as another faulty argument for a young earth.
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