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25th March 2003, 05:53 PM
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... is NOT:
- a religion
- an attempt to deny God
- atheism
- an explanation for the origin of life from non-life
- an explanation for the formation of the planets and solar system
- an explanation for the origin of the universe
- responsible for the current Middle East conflict
- responsible for the events of September 11th
- responsible for your child's bad behavior and/or poor grades in school
- geology
- astronomy
- cosmology
- in violation of the laws of thermodynamics
... IS:
- a scientific theory
- biology
- an explanation for the diversity of biological life on the planet
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25th March 2003, 10:40 PM
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Reps: 406,903,328,345,094,208 (power: 406,903,328,345,118) | | | Good try, Pete. I wish we could convince the board monitor to fix this thread at the top of the Forum permanently. That way we wouldn't have to do the denials in umpteen threads constantly. Hey, Bear, any chance of that? You've got a group of people who refuse to equate evolution and atheism, even the atheists. Why do we have to constantly do that?
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26th March 2003, 12:09 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | But Pete, if someone's pastor or a good Christian at a creationist website says evolution IS all those things, then why would a member of the flock doubt their word? Everybody knows that atheists (i.e., evolutionists) are untrustworthy and they'll say anything because they're deep in Satan's grip even if (being atheists) they don't believe Satan exists.
I mean, how long ago was the thread about evolution not being the same as atheism started? Didn't change anybody's mind, did it?
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27th March 2003, 04:28 PM
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27th March 2003, 05:57 PM
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Reps: 382 (power: 0) | | | This thread should be fixed like Lucaspa suggested. However I agree that it wouldn't change anything. Many creationists I have seen here seem beyond help, as creationism seems to have driven itself so far into their minds that it has become as crucial to their faith as God himself. They can no longer make the distinction between 'creationism' and 'creation', so any attack on the former is interpreted as an attack on the latter and is automatically discounted. Any attempt to seperate the two is also seen as an attack on their faith and suffer the same fate.
But at least we can help the borderline cases and the more rational, but misled, creationists.
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27th March 2003, 08:59 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | The problem is that until the next step in human evolution takes place no one will believe that it is true and the problem with waiting until it happens is that as a race we humans have become so completely dependant on machines that we will never evolve in any noticable way, unless we become telepathic or something. |
28th March 2003, 01:31 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Now that genetics is a maturing field, we can intelligently work to correct genetic defects that are no longer eliminated through natural selection (For instance, more and more people are needing eye glasses as the gene for misshapen eyes is passed down). |
28th March 2003, 01:34 AM
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Reps: 323 (power: 0) | | | "The problem is that until the next step in human evolution takes place no one will believe that it is true and the problem with waiting until it happens is that as a race we humans have become so completely dependant on machines that we will never evolve in any noticable way, unless we become telepathic or something."
Egads - science fiction for the most part has been a horrible detriment to basic science education in the world. **** X-Files! |
28th March 2003, 01:57 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Today at 11:34 PM Joe_Sixpack said this in Post #8
"The problem is that until the next step in human evolution takes place no one will believe that it is true and the problem with waiting until it happens is that as a race we humans have become so completely dependant on machines that we will never evolve in any noticable way, unless we become telepathic or something."
Egads - science fiction for the most part has been a horrible detriment to basic science education in the world. **** X-Files!
Hmm. Not sure exactly what you're trying to say, there. It would make sense that genetic diseases that crop up every once in awhile would no longer be eliminated, as we inhibit natural selection by keeping alive people who would otherwise die. Ten thousand years ago someone with my eyes would have a much better chance of getting killed than one with 20/20...
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By now the news of our defeat has reached the Earth. The creatures we were sent here to tame are untameable, and the colonies we were sent to reclaim have proven to be stronger than we anticipated.
Whatever you may hear about what has happened out here, know this: Alexei did not die gloriously in battle. I killed him. My pride, killed him. And now my pride has consumed me as well.
You will never see me again, Helena. Tell our children that I love them, and that their father died in defence of their future.
Au revoir. -Gerard DuGalle |
28th March 2003, 09:26 AM
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Pete, what are you trying to do? Don't you realize that without these tried-and-true strawmen, there's not much of a debate? Are you trying to shut these boards down? 25th March 2003 at 04:53 PM Pete Harcoff said this in Post #1
... is NOT:
- a religion
- an attempt to deny God
- atheism
- an explanation for the origin of life from non-life
- an explanation for the formation of the planets and solar system
- an explanation for the origin of the universe
- responsible for the current Middle East conflict
- responsible for the events of September 11th
- responsible for your child's bad behavior and/or poor grades in school
- geology
- astronomy
- cosmology
... IS:
- a scientific theory
- biology
- an explanation for the diversity of biological life on the planet | | |
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