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There pretty much arent any good educated scientific arguments against evolution. Most are either philosophical arguments or missunderstandings.

So, the best argument I can see is the philosophical one. But really, thats just grasping at straws.
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Today at 05:02 PM Behe's Boy said this in Post #10

Do you even know what Irreducible Complexity is?
Yes I do. Now, how does one empirically determine whether or not something is irreducible complex?
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Irreducible Complexity

Pete,  I would presume you to already have done plenty of reading on this subject, but just in case you haven't, this is a good one:

http://www.designinference.com/docum...nningsofID.pdf

BTW, ID is probably the single most devastating thing towards evolution (in my mind) -- though, it encompasses an entire subject matter and many individual citations.
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Can you explain why you believe ID is devastating towards evolution?
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Pete, the information at the link I just gave should answer your question of
How does one empirically determine whether or not something is irreducible complex?
If not, let me know and I will gladly work to accomodate your knowledge appetite!
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I guess, after all of the reading on ID I have done, I don't see how there is room left to even give it an afterthought. Have you read a considerable amount on the subject, Arikay?
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Today at 05:05 PM Pete Harcoff said this in Post #12



Yes I do. Now, how does one empirically determine whether or not something is irreducible complex?


That question was put to Martin - but as far as irreducible complexity goes - determining it actually takes common sense and some logic (something that evolution theory is devoid of) - apply those to it - and you might get somewhere.
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Can you name something that you would consider, through common sense and logic, to be irreducibly complex?
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Some. Both for and against.

So, why do you believe that ID shows evolution wrong?



Today at 02:10 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #16

I guess, after all of the reading on ID I have done, I don't see how there is room left to even give it an afterthought. Have you read a considerable amount on the subject, Arikay?

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Today at 10:02 PM Behe's Boy said this in Post #10

Do you even know what Irreducible Complexity is?

Indeed. It is irrelevant.
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