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26th March 2003, 06:02 PM
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So, the best argument I can see is the philosophical one. But really, thats just grasping at straws.
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26th March 2003, 06:05 PM
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Do you even know what Irreducible Complexity is?
Yes I do. Now, how does one empirically determine whether or not something is irreducible complex? | 
26th March 2003, 06:06 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Irreducible Complexity Pete, I would presume you to already have done plenty of reading on this subject, but just in case you haven't, this is a good one: http://www.designinference.com/docum...nningsofID.pdf
BTW, ID is probably the single most devastating thing towards evolution (in my mind) -- though, it encompasses an entire subject matter and many individual citations. | 
26th March 2003, 06:08 PM
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26th March 2003, 06:08 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Pete, the information at the link I just gave should answer your question of How does one empirically determine whether or not something is irreducible complex?
If not, let me know and I will gladly work to accomodate your knowledge appetite! | 
26th March 2003, 06:10 PM
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26th March 2003, 06:14 PM
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Yes I do. Now, how does one empirically determine whether or not something is irreducible complex?
That question was put to Martin - but as far as irreducible complexity goes - determining it actually takes common sense and some logic (something that evolution theory is devoid of) - apply those to it - and you might get somewhere. | 
26th March 2003, 06:18 PM
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26th March 2003, 06:19 PM
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So, why do you believe that ID shows evolution wrong? Today at 02:10 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #16
I guess, after all of the reading on ID I have done, I don't see how there is room left to even give it an afterthought. Have you read a considerable amount on the subject, Arikay?
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26th March 2003, 06:27 PM
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Do you even know what Irreducible Complexity is?
Indeed. It is irrelevant. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |