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25th March 2003, 01:42 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Which is the best way to learn about God's Creation? (Let's just ignore actually having a chat with Him, and assume that He exists for a moment here.)
1) Looking at everything which He created, learning about it, seeing how incredible it is, and how well God can design a universe that *works*, finding out *how* it works, how any particular thing happened, showing God that all the time He took to make some particularly insignificant thing was not wasted.
2) Literal reading of a book.
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By now the news of our defeat has reached the Earth. The creatures we were sent here to tame are untameable, and the colonies we were sent to reclaim have proven to be stronger than we anticipated.
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25th March 2003, 03:36 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Option 0ne, for me it's the only way as I don't believe in the bible.
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25th March 2003, 04:12 AM
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The Bible is a spiritual book about spiritual concerns and not a science book.
When you want to learn about nature and the natural world study it.
When you want to learn about Christianity and its take on the spiritual world study the Bible. | 
25th March 2003, 10:23 AM
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Reps: 407,430,393,920,795,712 (power: 407,430,393,920,819) | | | Re: Which is the best way to learn about God's Creation? Today at 12:42 AM Tenek said this in Post #1
(Let's just ignore actually having a chat with Him, and assume that He exists for a moment here.)
1) Looking at everything which He created, learning about it, seeing how incredible it is, and how well God can design a universe that *works*, finding out *how* it works, how any particular thing happened, showing God that all the time He took to make some particularly insignificant thing was not wasted.
"the great book ... of created things. Look above you; look below you; read it, note it." St. Augustine, Sermon 126 in Corpus Christianorum
I must caution you. You started off with an assumption: "assume He exists for a moment". However, you immediately moved into statements where you think the physical universe is going to prove that assumption: "how well God can design a universe...showing God that all the time He took to make some particularly insignifica thing"
That isn't going to happen. Because the tool we use to examine the universe -- science -- is limited to looking only at material causes, you are not going to find proof of God in nature.
If you start with your prior assumptions -- God exists and God created -- then the universe is going to show you how God created. But it won't go back and show that your assumptions are correct. | 
21st August 2009, 09:37 PM
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Reps: 47,249,488,649,861,296 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I voted READING GENESIS.
And we all care. | 
21st August 2009, 10:38 PM
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Reps: 75,142,064,124,300,000 (power: 75,142,064,124,315) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I voted READING GENESIS. Originally Posted by Washington And we all care.
And we are all shocked!
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21st August 2009, 11:30 PM
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Make up a simplistic story, and hope to convince people to believe it through faith.
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22nd August 2009, 02:37 PM
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__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution | 
22nd August 2009, 02:41 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff Oh look, another thread necro'd by AV1611VET. It's like he has this strange obsession with ressurrecting the dead.... hmmm...
I wouldn't want you to think abiogenesis is a myth ---
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