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Even with these un-found "Easter eggs", how will that last an eternity? Earth, itself, has a finite size after all.
Only a person who is utterly beyond the reach of good sense let alone learning anything is under the impression that there is anything about the modern day coelacanth that makes some sort of case for creationism or is some sort of embarrassment to science.
For those who dont know (those incapable of learning can ignore this)
the crossopterygian fish of a few hundred million years ago were fresh water fish and as such were fossilized in some numbers.
They disappear abruptly from the fossil record at the end of the cretaceous along with a large percent of all other living things on earth.
No fossils of later ones have ever been found, so it was an interesting surprise to find that not all species were extinct.
The living species is a marine fish from deep water, and getting a fossil from that environment is extremely unlikely, there may well be no fossils whatever, anywhere of this fish. None have been found certainly.
In what way this says something negative about the ToE is where the real mystery comes in.
It requires deep misrepresentation, lying actually, about the facts in order to make it into somenthing demonstrating a problem for the ToE.
No, it didn't -- the Deepwater Horizon didn't just blow up in a vacuum.
It took days for scientists to get the budget cuts and exemptions to safety rules that led to that disaster.
Whenever [Godless] science is involved, you can be sure there will be another Titanic or Chernobyl or Deepwater Horizon or Challenger or Thalidomide or Three Mile Island to clean up.
No, it didn't -- the Deepwater Horizon didn't just blow up in a vacuum.
It took days for scientists to get the budget cuts and exemptions to safety rules that led to that disaster.
Whenever [Godless] science is involved, you can be sure there will be another Titanic or Chernobyl or Deepwater Horizon or Challenger or Thalidomide or Three Mile Island to clean up.
You know perfectly well that I was talking about your failure to understand the petroleum system.
By the way, do you have any examples of budget cuts and exemptions on Deepwater Horizon, and any evidence that these are what lead to the blowout?
Personally, I'll take your six examples and raise you the technological and scientific progress achieved over the last 100+ years. Pretty small price to pay.
__________________ a laundry list of problems doesn't make you interesting/and never getting help doesn't make you brave
Not listening to reason doesn't mean that you have faith/you're just cutting off your nose to spite your face.
So tie the noose, and raise the cross
The martyr's arrived.
A desperate plee for sympathy
Is all you need.
And you want it all.
No, it didn't -- the Deepwater Horizon didn't just blow up in a vacuum.
It took days for scientists to get the budget cuts and exemptions to safety rules that led to that disaster.
Whenever [Godless] science is involved, you can be sure there will be another Titanic or Chernobyl or Deepwater Horizon or Challenger or Thalidomide or Three Mile Island to clean up.
This post is one of many examples where you are anti-science (which I believe you sometimes try to deny). ...how you blame scientists for disasters that are better connected to corporate greed. It's not the scientists who are saying "It would be less safe, but more affordable - let's go fer that option!"
__________________ “I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” -- Susan B. Anthony
Would Jesus have pushed for budget and safety cuts?
You build and operate something like the Deepwater Horizon, and you'd better have dedicated Christians running it -- in my opinion.
Facts: Scientists were not operating Deepwater Horizon. Oil rig operators were, and were doing so under the guidance of BP according to policies put in place by executive employees. The religious affiliation of any employees on any oil rig has nothing to do with safety.
__________________ “I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” -- Susan B. Anthony
__________________ "When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land."
-Archbishop Desmond Tutu
"The fables of so called science are gross darkness and evil."
-God's One True Prophet on Earth, dad
"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
Facts: Scientists were not operating Deepwater Horizon. Oil rig operators were, and were doing so under the guidance of BP according to policies put in place by executive employees. The religious affiliation of any employees on any oil rig has nothing to do with safety.
How's come when something like the Challenger or Deepwater Horizon is successful, it's because science has improved our quality of life so well; but when something like the Challenger or Deepwater Horizon happens, it's suddenly corporate's fault?
These 'executive employees' you mentioned -- none of them are/were scientists?
This is why I say science runs on the No True Scotsman Principle.
No, it didn't -- the Deepwater Horizon didn't just blow up in a vacuum.
It took days for (evil, atheist, Bible-hating) scientists to get the budget cuts and exemptions to safety rules that led to that disaster.
Whenever [Godless] science is involved, you can be sure there will be another Titanic or Chernobyl or Deepwater Horizon or Challenger or Thalidomide or Three Mile Island to clean up.
Would Jesus have pushed for budget and safety cuts?
You build and operate something like the Deepwater Horizon, and you'd better have dedicated Christians running it -- in my opinion.
How do you know that dedicated Christians were not running things? Or is this one of your "No True Scotsman" arguments?
Originally Posted by Delphiki
Facts: Scientists were not operating Deepwater Horizon. Oil rig operators were, and were doing so under the guidance of BP according to policies put in place by executive employees. The religious affiliation of any employees on any oil rig has nothing to do with safety.
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__________________ "When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land."
-Archbishop Desmond Tutu
"The fables of so called science are gross darkness and evil."
-God's One True Prophet on Earth, dad
"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
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