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Jezebel Spirits, Soul Ties, Generational Curses etc

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Recently I have been hearing about these things more and more at church during the sermon. Can anyone help me out with what these things are?

Jezebel's Spirit I have vaguely heard of once before. Its something that makes women try to rule over their husband (or something?). Sorry girls if I got that wrong

Generational Curses I dont think I believe in (Ezek 18).

What are Soul ties when they are at home?

Even if they are good things I prefer a sermon more and about Jesus+the gospel or the Holy SPirit than these side issues.

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Originally Posted by lismore View Post
Hi

Recently I have been hearing about these things more and more at church during the sermon. Can anyone help me out with what these things are?

Jezebel's Spirit I have vaguely heard of once before. Its something that makes women try to rule over their husband (or something?). Sorry girls if I got that wrong

Generational Curses I dont think I believe in (Ezek 18).

What are Soul ties when they are at home?

Even if they are good things I prefer a sermon more and about Jesus+the gospel or the Holy SPirit than these side issues.


It is much more than a "side issue" to those who deal with them.
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Jezebel spirit = any woman with an opinion of her own.

(that was MAJORLY tongue-in-cheek, but sadly accurate in some fringe churches)
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I guess you could look at genetic disease, like someone inherits a tendency to heart disease because your ma or pa, had it, as a generational curse. But Jesus bore the curses, generational or not. I guess in a way we were all under a generational curse. Some people see it as evil spirits that just live with a family for generations. I'm not sure I believe that.

I just finished up my geneology chart, and got it as far back as the year 1611. Found one murderer in it way back, does that mean I'm destined to commit murder? Most of them are observent Jews, so I inherit that too, and the rest are Church of Christ, I guess I inherit being that too..oh, yeah, and one Priest buried in Westminster Abby..maybe their was more of the good than the bad that cancelled out the one that did murder? Our generations don't make up who we are as being in Christ. We are a new creation.
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Originally Posted by robbymac View Post
Jezebel spirit = any woman with an opinion of her own.

(that was MAJORLY tongue-in-cheek, but sadly accurate in some fringe churches)
I have to disagree with this. That may have been a popular opinion but certainly not what a Jezebel spirit represented.
xWhat Rev 2:20 stands for is the great harlot of Rev 17 who mixes abominations with divine things.
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Jezabel spirit is a vile spirit directed against God and His people


1 Kings 16:31 (
31 He not only considered it trivial to commit the sins of Jeroboam son of Nebat, but he also married Jezebel daughter of Ethbaal king of the Sidonians, and began to serve Baal and worship him.

1 Kings 19
Elijah Flees to Horeb
1 Now Ahab told Jezebel everything Elijah had done and how he had killed all the prophets with the sword. 2 So Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah to say, "May the gods deal with me, be it ever so severely, if by this time tomorrow I do not make your life like that of one of them."

1 Kings 21:23 (
23 "And also concerning Jezebel the LORD says: 'Dogs will devour Jezebel by the wall of [a] Jezreel.'
1 Kings 21:25-26
25 (There was never a man like Ahab, who sold himself to do evil in the eyes of the LORD, urged on by Jezebel his wife. 26 He behaved in the vilest manner by going after idols, like the Amorites the LORD drove out before Israel.)
2 Kings 9:7
7 You are to destroy the house of Ahab your master, and I will avenge the blood of my servants the prophets and the blood of all the LORD's servants shed by Jezebel.
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Originally Posted by lismore View Post
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Jezebel's Spirit I have vaguely heard of once before. Its something that makes women try to rule over their husband (or something?). Sorry girls if I got that wrong

Okay I have heard something alittle different you mostly here about women having this spirit but a man can have this spirit also, someone who is very controling or tries to be controling basically running everything in a sense
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Originally Posted by Godslilgurlalways View Post
Okay I have heard something alittle different you mostly here about women having this spirit but a man can have this spirit also, someone who is very controling or tries to be controling basically running everything in a sense
That is exactly right GLGA! I used to attend a church where the pastor had a jezebel spirit.

Now, I'm not exactly sure if this is a "demon", per se. I think, rather that this is something in the flesh that was cultivated since someone's childhood.

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A true Jezebel spirit is a rebellious spirit. If fully matured, it is lawless, unwilling to submit to any higher authority.
Their conscience is either underdeveloped or seared.

Because rebelliousness is as the sin of witchcraft (according to the Word), it attracts and opens doors to the demonic realm.

Highly developed jezebel spirits are cunning to an art form. They are treacherous. They are masters at masking themselves around most people, while zeroing in on their victim who has something they want - usually power in a church, business, home etc.

They are evil in the sense that they are perfectly willing for others to be hurt in their pursuit of what they want.

They need an Ahab type of personality to enable them. It takes courage and spiritual warfare to bring them down if they get themselves entrenched. It is far better to be a watchman on the wall and recognize what you are dealing with (discernment), before entrenchment occurs.
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Originally Posted by churchlady View Post
A true Jezebel spirit is a rebellious spirit. If fully matured, it is lawless, unwilling to submit to any higher authority.
Their conscience is either underdeveloped or seared.

Because rebelliousness is as the sin of witchcraft (according to the Word), it attracts and opens doors to the demonic realm.

Highly developed jezebel spirits are cunning to an art form. They are treacherous. They are masters at masking themselves around most people, while zeroing in on their victim who has something they want - usually power in a church, business, home etc.

They are evil in the sense that they are perfectly willing for others to be hurt in their pursuit of what they want.

They need an Ahab type of personality to enable them. It takes courage and spiritual warfare to bring them down if they get themselves entrenched. It is far better to be a watchman on the wall and recognize what you are dealing with (discernment), before entrenchment occurs.
You are exactly right - they are very controlling and very dangerous - they take over befor a person even knows it's there. Once the door is open for it to come in - it is there - and not easy to cast away - it holds on for dear life. A Jezebel spirit deals with a lot of witchcraft in their control.

It does not care who it hurts and the more the better. It will control your life until you are not a very nice person.
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