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27th September 2006, 02:00 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,517) | | | Ex-Gays Defeating satan & embarrasing pro-gays I ‘m just wondering what other people think about someone converting from gay to straight along with a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. I believe the bible says homosexuals are going to an eternal BURNING HELL because of the sin of sexual idolatry. I believe the bible says homosexual behavior is a grievous sin. As one pastor put it, when God says “the end” in the bible, homosexual is the period at the end of the sentence. Biblically it is human depravity in its lowest state. It doesn’t get much lower. I can only feel sorry for those that don’t want to escape this horrible fate – to be joined forever with this sexual idol with worms crawling over them screaming in agony, for somebody, anybody to help them. But it’s too late, and they burn forever -- what a horrible fate. I wouldn’t want it on anyone, but the bible says it is true. Jesus said it with His own lips, “This is the Condemnation, that light came into the world, but men preferred darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.” Don’t join the horrible parade to hell’s gates. In God’s eyes it’s a shameful thing, not something to be proud of. Escape while you still can. | 
27th September 2006, 02:09 PM
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I also don't think homosexuality is the worst thing in the world.
I feel sorry for people who think the way you do though. | 
27th September 2006, 02:11 PM
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Reps: 546,238,496,450,605,696 (power: 546,238,496,450,624) | | Originally Posted by MercyBurst I ‘m just wondering what other people think about someone converting from gay to straight along with a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. I believe the bible says homosexuals are going to an eternal BURNING HELL because of the sin of sexual idolatry. I believe the bible says homosexual behavior is a grievous sin. As one pastor put it, when God says “the end” in the bible, homosexual is the period at the end of the sentence. Biblically it is human depravity in its lowest state. It doesn’t get much lower. I can only feel sorry for those that don’t want to escape this horrible fate – to be joined forever with this sexual idol with worms crawling over them screaming in agony, for somebody, anybody to help them. But it’s too late, and they burn forever -- what a horrible fate. I wouldn’t want it on anyone, but the bible says it is true. Jesus said it with His own lips, “This is the Condemnation, that light came into the world, but men preferred darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.” Don’t join the horrible parade to hell’s gates. In God’s eyes it’s a shameful thing, not something to be proud of. Escape while you still can.
What you describe as a horrible fate isn't anything to worry about for those of us who don't believe as you do. We have nothing to fear, and neither do the vast majority of homosexuals. You can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't necessarily make it so.
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27th September 2006, 02:11 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,517) | | Originally Posted by flicka I don't think anyone does convert from gay to straight based just upon a 'saving relationship with Jesus Christ".
I also don't think homosexuality is the worst thing in the world.
I feel sorry for people who think the way you do though.
I just feel sorry for people that don't have Jesus. It doesn't end when we die. | 
27th September 2006, 02:15 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,517) | | Originally Posted by Skaloop What you describe as a horrible fate isn't anything to worry about for those of us who don't believe as you do. We have nothing to fear, and neither do the vast majority of homosexuals. You can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't necessarily make it so.
I don't want to believe I'm going to die, but I will. It's reality. I believe hell is a reality too, and homosexuals are going there just like the bible tells me. How horrible. A few years of sexual pleasure brings them eternal torment with worms crawling all over their rotting bodies. Oh, how they wish they could just die, but they can't. They must live on, joined to their sex idol like an eternally grotesque ritual. | 
27th September 2006, 02:20 PM
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Reps: 546,238,496,450,605,696 (power: 546,238,496,450,624) | | Originally Posted by MercyBurst I don't want to believe I'm going to die, but I will. It's reality. I believe hell is a reality too, and homosexuals are going there just like the bible tells me. How horrible. A few years of sexual pleasure brings them eternal torment with worms crawling all over their rotting bodies. Oh, how they wish they could just die, but they can't. They must live on, joined to their sex idol like an eternally grotesque ritual.
You don't want to believe that upon your death your entire existence ends completely, but it will. It's a reality. But, you don't believe that, right? So do you concern yourself with having to face such an end? I'd expect not, just the same as those of us who see an afterlife as a ridiculous notion don't bother ourselves worrying about it.
And I don't really see how crawling worms are such a horrible torment. I mean, surely Satan could come up with something better than that.
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27th September 2006, 02:26 PM
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....thats some sick thinking right here. Do you tell this to your kids as a bedtime story? And what in the world makes you so completely focused on SEX, homosexual or otherwise? It's just SEX for pete's sake! There are much more important and interesting things to be thinking about If God were real I'm sure it wouldn't be the foremost thing on his mind. | 
27th September 2006, 02:28 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,517) | | Originally Posted by Skaloop You don't want to believe that upon your death your entire existence ends completely, but it will. It's a reality. But, you don't believe that, right? So do you concern yourself with having to face such an end? I'd expect not, just the same as those of us who see an afterlife as a ridiculous notion don't bother ourselves worrying about it.
And I don't really see how crawling worms are such a horrible torment. I mean, surely Satan could come up with something better than that.
I believe Jesus is resurrected from the dead. I believe a resurrection is physically possible. | 
27th September 2006, 02:30 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,517) | | Originally Posted by flicka ....thats some sick thinking right here. Do you tell this to your kids as a bedtime story? And what in the world makes you so completely focused on SEX, homosexual or otherwise? It's just SEX for pete's sake! There are much more important and interesting things to be thinking about If God were real I'm sure it wouldn't be the foremost thing on his mind.
No I don't have to tell it to my kids. They are loved dearly.
It (homosexuality) is just a sex idol that takes people to hell. I don't want people to go there.
To the person going to an eternal hell, no I can not think of ANYTHING more important. Can you? | 
27th September 2006, 02:37 PM
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