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6th March 2003, 07:53 AM
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Why does Kent Hovind manage to get so much support? His theories are scientifically invalid but he still seems to have a lot of followers. And the faith in him that some seem to have (Tacoman in the 'to all you atheists: bring it on' thread, for example) is amazing, so how does he do it?
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Greatest Hovind quote of all time, as voted for by members of CF:
"Teaching the pagan religion of evolutionism is a waste of valuable class time and textbook space. It is also one of the reasons American kids don't test as well in science as kids in other parts of the world." |
6th March 2003, 08:00 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | he is very charismatic, and his audience is usually scientifically illiterate
if he were to deliver his material in front of an audience of evolutionary biologists - he'd get either gales of laughter or embarrassed coughing
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6th March 2003, 08:03 AM
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6th March 2003, 08:09 AM
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I don't think Kent Hovind is as successful as you may think. The poor man can barely scrape together enough to pay his federal income tax.
He can scrape it together. He just has this attitude about the government that he does not think he should have to be subject to them. Then he uses the constitution, a man made document, to show a part of his reason why he does not have to subject himself to a man made government. I wrote him a email about it, but he did not answer me. I guess he has the attitude he does not have to answer to people who disagree with him. |
6th March 2003, 08:26 AM
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Reps: 382 (power: 0) | | What I meant was, why does he have so many followers? And the Charisma factor combined with scientific illiteracy is probably the answer. If you are good at speaking to a crowd then you can achieve a lot. (just look at Hitler)
There seems to be some kind of pattern here...
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Greatest Hovind quote of all time, as voted for by members of CF:
"Teaching the pagan religion of evolutionism is a waste of valuable class time and textbook space. It is also one of the reasons American kids don't test as well in science as kids in other parts of the world." |
6th March 2003, 08:49 AM
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Are.
Really.
Gullible.
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"The real field and subject of deception are things unknown: firstly because their very strangeness lends them credence; second, because they cannot be exposed to our usual order of argument, so stripping us of the means of fighting them. Plato says that this explains why it is easier to satisfy people when talking of the nature of the gods than of the nature of men: the ignorance of the hearers provides such hidden matters with a firm broad course for them to canter along in freedom. (Plato, Critias, 107B) And so it turns out that nothing is so firmly believed as whatever we know least about, and that no persons are more sure of themselves than those who tell us tall stories..."
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6th March 2003, 08:52 AM
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Reps: 382 (power: 0) | | | Ok, I'll be adding the PARG principle to my list of beliefs about humans. I wonder how long we have before the Hovindites rally to his defence.
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Greatest Hovind quote of all time, as voted for by members of CF:
"Teaching the pagan religion of evolutionism is a waste of valuable class time and textbook space. It is also one of the reasons American kids don't test as well in science as kids in other parts of the world." |
6th March 2003, 09:04 AM
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There's not a whole lot of them here anymore, I don't think. He's been thoroughly thrashed over and over again on these forums. Only the most obtuse still believe in our good "Doctor."
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"The real field and subject of deception are things unknown: firstly because their very strangeness lends them credence; second, because they cannot be exposed to our usual order of argument, so stripping us of the means of fighting them. Plato says that this explains why it is easier to satisfy people when talking of the nature of the gods than of the nature of men: the ignorance of the hearers provides such hidden matters with a firm broad course for them to canter along in freedom. (Plato, Critias, 107B) And so it turns out that nothing is so firmly believed as whatever we know least about, and that no persons are more sure of themselves than those who tell us tall stories..."
- Montaigne, Essays, I:32 |
6th March 2003, 09:25 AM
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Today at 07:53 AM PhantomLlama said this in Post #1
Why does Kent Hovind manage to get so much support?
He is a Baptist in the Bob Jones tradition. They are pretty much separatist. They are cousins of the Mennonite and the Amish who come out of the anabaptist tradition also. These are a very splintered group of people who can have a division over using hooks or buttons on your clothing. One group will think they are better than the other group, because they do not allow telephones. One may wear black uniform the other a blue uniform.
Some divisions are to show who is appoved and who is not. But other divisions are just a work of the flesh.
1 Cor. 1:12-13
Now I say this, that each of you says, "I am of Paul," or "I am of Apollos," or "I am of Cephas," or "I am of Christ." [13] Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
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