Alternative "witnessing"

Some of you all on Christianforums know I believe some things that are considered quite unorthodox, though I do beleive the core truths of Scripture, and the way of salvation through Jesus Christ.
In my profile I listed my type of ministry as "alternative, elven." I just wanted to share a bit of what that's all about. First of all before I was born again I was into darkness, vampires, satan and all that sort of stuff. Then I was saved almost 22 years ago. However I do have "pagan" friends, I am Native American, and also of elven (Albe or Albi) ancestry through my maternal Scottish grandparents. Here then is an example of how God leads me to "witness" among these people:

"Elven" Antichrist September 12, 2006

You know, some people speak of an "Elven king" being the Antichrist, the world ruler who rejects God and calls himself god, demanding all to worship him.

I'll say this now: I am an Elf, and I will not, I do not recognize such a ruler as anything but evil - no different than Sauron - in fact, he is Morgoth incarnate. Or Lucifer, or Satan if you're of a strictly Christian mindset. Same difference anyways.

Do you think just because Elves are given an exalted and glorified image that they are above wickedness? Hardly not! Read the Silmarillion if you think so.... Elves hearts can turn to the dark side, serve Morgoth, kill innocents, and wreak havoc among their blood brethren. The history tells us this be true.

So if in fact the Antichrist is of Elven bloodline it makes no difference. He should be rejected and resisted for what he is: a sell out!

Elves devoted to Eru should reject outright the workings of Melkor. Yes, I speak names that were forbidden to be spoken at one time, but they were written within the past 100 years and I speak them (or write them) by permission and so that you shall know exactly what I refer to.

Eru = God
Melkor = Satan

It's as simple as that, period. I don't even want to philosophise or try to argue this point. I know some will disagree, some may even be angry and adamant, denying that satan even exists and other such things. Read the Bible and read the Silmarillion in every place God and satan or Eru/Iluvatar and Melkor/Morgoth are mentioned. I don't have to repeat what's already been written in this case.

Do you know what my major concern is? The connections with the Knights Templar, the Freemasons (and by default, the Iluminati) in conjuction with the Elven bloodline. Why, you may ask?
First of all I believe in the Elven bloodlines as a real physical phenomenon, it's reality, it's a part of our history. It's been suppressed by organized religion, especially by the Catholic Church, and many protestant churches think it is nothing but evil.
I love the research done by people like Gardner, DeVere, Starbird, and several others who validate the Elven bloodlines historically. But along with all this is the disturbing involvement of the Masons....
These secret organizations support a one world government and a whole bunch of stuff that is part of the Antichrists agenda. Masons even have oaths to Lucifer as part of some of their rituals in the higher degrees. I know, my Dad was one and he finally rejected his membership as he drew closer to God at the same time higher in the Lodge. He didn't like what he was seeing. It didn't resonate - it grated against the Spirit he knew.

Of course most Masons don't even know what they are really involved in - many are just a bunch of beer drinking guys who view it as some secret social club. I've met a few masons and what strikes me about them is they seemed very unspiritual people. But those higher up in the Lodge know what's going on.

I've read some protestant literature that denounces all the Elves, saying the Elves want to set up a world "King" and that this person will be the antichrist. I believe these statements are fundamentalist ramblings because how can you judge every Elf? That's plain wrong. There are Elves who do good and Elves who do evil just like the race of men. Lumping all into one category is racism, pure and simple, and I reject such church led assaults on Elven character. But I would agree on one point if someone of Elven bloodline was to become the world ruler and Antichrist. Just because he was part Elf does not mean I would serve him and certainly wouldn't worship him as some kind of divine emporer!

We know from prophecies that the Antichrist will start out subtle and actually bring peace in many parts of the world that are now in turmoil. At first it will look good. But then something happens. Actually, he gets possessed by Mogoth/Satan and becomes like Sauron. He will institute an ID system that the Bible calls the mark of the beast.

Revelation 13 talks about the beast, and the number of the beast, and that the antichrist will require all people on earth to take this "mark" or number. Without it they will not be able to buy or sell, and eventually the government will make the mark mandatory with the penalty for refusal being death.
many Christians think the "mark" is simply symbolic but this is not so. It is obviously a type of identification system tied in with a worldwide financial system. Anyone who reads anything in the media should know such a system is well underway. They want a world currency, and many want a cashless society. Europe recently adopted the Euro currency that's accepted in numerous countries in Europe. "E-commerce" and electronic or virtual money is more and more prevalent with the popularity of computers and the internet. Stores all over the world have installed electronic scanners to read credit cards and checks. All the technology is already in place. All it would take is adapting the present system to read a biochip or mirochip implant in a persons body rather than read a magnetic strip on a card.
Recently it's been brought to the publics attention that the US governement, specifically the USDA is planning to implement and enforce NAIS, otherwise known as the National Animal Identification System. Such legislature would require all farmers and owners of certain animals to have their animals implanted with a microchip, to register their farm or residence, and to report to government agencies whenever one of their animals is born, sold, gives birth, or dies. The mandatory implantation is schedualed for January 2008, with enforcement of the reporting to start January 2009. Unless there are legal roadblocks, which I sure hope there are.

Here is some idea of what NAIS would do:


Premises registration: Every person who owns even one horse, cow, pig, chicken, sheep, goat, deer, elk, bison, or virtually any livestock animal, will be forced to register their home, including owner's name, address, and telephone number, and keyed to Global Positioning System coordinates, in a government database under a 7-digit "premises ID number." (Standards, pp. 3-4, 10-12; Plan, p. 5.) Additionally, pet owners who own one parakeet, canary, cockatiel, etc. as owners of "exotic fowl" have been targeted for mandatory inclusion in this system. If you buy a pet bird after this system is put into effect, it probably will already have an Animal Identification Number. It will be registered to you, and you must register your premises (wherever you keep the bird). If you move the bird off your "premises" for any reason, or it dies, or it produces more birds, you must report such activity to the federal government within 24 hours. In Texas, there was a staff recommendation to hold off on mandatory registration of exotic fowl kept as pets, until a disease was suspected, then they will implement mandatory registration. However, that recommendation is on hold until TAHC decides what path it will take.
Animal Identification: Every animal will have to be assigned a 15-digit ID number by the government. The form of ID will most likely be a tag or microchip containing a Radio Frequency Identification Device (RFID), designed to be read from a distance. (Plan, p. 10; Standards, pp. 6, 12, 20, 27-28.) The plan may also include collecting the DNA of every animal and/or a retinal scan of every animal. (Plan, p.13.) Despite the announcement that a federal mandatory database might be put off, USDA maintains detailed information on the structure of these 15-digit ID numbers as of mid-March 2006, ostensibly so that ID manufacturers could normalize their numbering systems. Some animals such as pigs and poultry, owned by large producers, may have a "group" identifier assigned instead of an individual number for each animal, as described below.
While some state agencies and industry actors have pointed to the provision for "group numbers" for poultry and swine, small farmers do not manage their animals in ways that would qualify. Group or lot identification can only be used where groups of animals are managed together from birth to death and never commingled with other animals. (Standards pp.5-6.) This provision is tailored for confinement poultry operations, not pastured poultry operations. If animals do not meet the requirements for group identification, they will have to be individually identified.
Animal Tracking: The owner will be required to report: the birthdate of an animal, the application of every animal's ID tag, every time an animal leaves or enters the property, every time an animal loses a tag, every time a tag is replaced, the slaughter or death of an animal, or if any animal is missing. Also, every time an animal goes onto or off of another person's premises, a report would be required, showing that the tagged animal had been on each of these other premises. Such events must be reported within 24 hours. (Standards, pp. 12-13, 17-21.)
Third parties, such as veterinarians, will be required to report "sightings" of animals who do not have ID numbers. (Standards, p. 25.) In other words, if a farmer or rancher calls a vet to their property to treat an animal, and the vet finds any animal without the mandatory 15-digit computer-readable ID, the vet may be required to report that non-compliance.
There are no exceptions; under the USDA plan; livestock owners will be forced to register and report even if they raise animals only for their own food or keep horses for draft or for transportation.
The USDA will exercise "enforcement" against livestock farmers who don't comply. (Standards, p. 7; Plan, p. 17.) As an example of what can be expected, the proposed Texas regulations for mandatory premises registration provide for fines of up to $1,000 per day and criminal penalties.
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If that isn't scary enough, consider that behind the scenes the world governments are also working on such a system for people! This would be a fulfillment of the prophecies in revelation and daniel about the antichrist and his "mark" system. We already see in the identification system for animals that severe fines and even criminal penalties are planned for non compliance. Don't think the same or worse would be instituted for non complience when people are the target of the same type of system.

How can we deny that something prophecied almost 2000 years ago is now just about a reality? At the time those prophecies were written the world did not have the technology to implement such a system. In fact it didn't have the technology until the 1960s, when ironically in Brussels, Belgium they constructed a super computer nicknamed "The beast" that could in theory handle the financial transactions of the entire world population.

So, the point being - we as Elves have a responsibility. Remember that Melkor was once a servant of Eru, that Sauron and saruman were "divine" beings before they turned to the dark side. And the Orcs were once Elves, corrupted by the genetic manipulations of Melkor.
Elves - those true to Eru/Iluvatar, who seek the light and the path of immortality, who reject the dark sorcery of Melkor and the works of Sauron and Saruman the false prophet, and defend against the armies of currupt Orcs - in your heart, alone, seek and decide who ye shall serve. If you purely seek for the Truth, the truth shall be known by you.

If we are to survive the final battles and be welcomed into the next age by Iluvatar, which being God works through Jesus Christ, and by the Holy Spirit; the feminine part of the godhead, we need to be able to recognize the Antichrist, and then reject him and his system. Look at it this way - the Antichrist will eventually demand worship of himself, a mere man, and by default: Morgoth!
Will Pagans who believe in the feminine, the goddess, bow before a man? Will Christians bow before someone they know is purely evil according to the Bible? Will anyone who is faithful to their spiritual practice worship a man who is not god, but who pretends to be one?
You see, the Antichrist will not only persecute Christians, he will persecute anyone who doesn't take his mark (The ID system) and who doesn't worship him.
I personally place my trust in Jesus - Yeshua to overcome and destroy this filth; this Sauronic monster. And I believe Elves who believe in the light of Eru and the song of the Ainur, and the beauty of Creation should seriously consider these things.

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"CALLING OF THE ELVES" (Specifically geared towards Tolkienist, LOTR people....)

So the Elves have awakened, but strangely many Elves have disregarded their culture for other things that were once foreign to them. They have adapted what can only be called a Humanist philosophy in regards to many issues, and in doing so they bring shame to the beliefs of their ancestors. These beliefs are not foreign to true Christian beliefs.

I am not speaking of ultra right wing fringe elements such as those radical warmongering fundamentalists who would enslave the population, force one language upon all citizens, and even kill those who opposed them. Sadly we have some Christian elders who are this way. I am as much opposed to these kind of people as I am to any unconciousable act.

But many Elves have completely cast aside all vestiges of Christianity for an extremist stance. I'll pull no punches - though I might land a few that hurt.

We Elves (most of us) consider Tolkien to be the channeler or prophet of Elven lore for this age. If so, why is it then that we pick and choose what we feel comfortable with and set aside the rest? This is no different than Christians who set aside an important part of the Scriptures because it doesn't suit their fancy.

Show me one place where Tolkien recorded that Eru, or the Valar, or Maiar, or Elves condoned or practiced homosexuality or abortion. Don't try to pull "Haldir comes off as gay in the movie," because the movies are nothing but Hollywoods depiction of Tolkiens works and not an accurate interpretation. And it's just like Hollywood to throw homosexual tendencies into their shows.

Show me one place Tolkien recorded that stuff like stem cell reesearch, genetic engineering, or cloning is condoned by Eru, the Valar, Maiar, or Elves. Oh, wait - it is condoned and practiced by one group according to Tolkien, and that is Morgoths! The Orcs: genetically altered Elves, corrupted, violent, sinister beings. The Uruk Hai: genetically produced by Saruman after he sold out to Morgoth and allied himself with Sauron. Just remember that next time you support legislation for stem cell research or "human" cloning.

Do you support a one world government? The UN having authority over individual sovereign nations? People cry "diversity" but that word has become a catch phrase that really covers for the militant gay agenda, abortion, and forcing our children to learn lies in public schools such as atheistic evolution. Evolution? Show me that in the Silmarillion, please. Abortion being promoted to teenagers and even pre teens under the government sponsored "sex education" classes. Is this Elven tradition? What do the laws and customs of the Eldar say?
"As for the begetting and bearing of children: a year passes between the begetting and the birth of an elf-child, so that the days of both are the same or nearly so, and it is the day of begetting that is remembered year by year. For the most part these days come in the Spring."

As far as diversity in race and culture, sure. I'm all for it. When Aragorn took the throne in Gondor it meant freedom for Elves, men, Hobbits, Dwarves - all races. Except of course the genetically corrupted Orcs and servants of Morgoth who were destroyed. But these were not naturally born races, they were engineered.

On the other hand it was Sauron, servant of Morgoth who envisioned a one world government (or new world order) ruled by Orcs and enslaving all other races! Don't be deceived by the lies that spue out of Barad-Ur! If you let the legions of Sauron get the upper hand then they will decimate us all and we shall become thralls in their pits of slavery!

Oh, and there are a few things I have against the churches as well. Even Jesus spoke such words in Revelation chapters 2 and 3. What are these things?

The churches have denied the feminine. I recognize the Holy Spirit as feminine from both Scripture and from experience. The churches denial and suppression of the feminine has caused a warped imbalance where patriarchal power has reigned strongly for about 1,700 years.

But many Elves have completely cast aside the male of the Deity and devoted themselves exclusively to the female. I've even been guilty of this from time to time. Where is the balance?! Goddess this - Goddess that. OK, fine, but those who honor only the female and cast the male aside are no better than the patriarchal Christians who cast the female aside in favor of the male. Either extreme is an imbalance.

And for those who have cried out about the male dominant imbalance fostred by institutional Christianity, why then do you support homosexuality which is just another version of the imabalance?

What about care for the environment? Most Elves have this right. You know what Saruman did in Isengard. It's blasphemy! God calls us to care for the earth. Why are some Christians so anti environment and anti environmentalist? Why do they lump environmentalists in with atheists, communists, homosexuals, and humanists? I've read that in some of popular Christian author Tim LaHayes books (It's mentioned a several times in Mind Siege alone.) I've read it and heard it from other fundamentalists.

I'll tell you this: You cut down the rain forests of the tropics, the Tiaga forests of the north, and pollute the oceans and you are cutting out the lungs of this planet! I mean, you Christians who want to save the unborn children from murderous abortion, what kind of world do you offer their generation? A dying polluted world? Where's the balance? We need to save the unborn and the environment so there will be a next generation and a world for them to live in. save one without the other and you're a fool.
The verse "take dominion over the earth" means responsible dominion and responsible use of resources, not abuse of them exploitation, and a rampant disregard for the pristine creation. Use, not abuse - and all too many people in this world treat the earth like Sarumans Orcs who raped the land to fuel the fires of their industrial war machine and mad genetic science!

And for those who believe in the Grail dynasty, the royal bloodline, the San Graal, Dragon bloodline, Merovingian descent..... both Elves and Christians, this applies. In most cases Elves, if they believe this see it as a good thing whereas many Christians see it as evil. I won't agrue the semanitics of that here. I will focuss on the blood. I know the ancient ritual, I know the blood - I know the symbolism disguised by the drinking of monatomic gold as perpetuated by Moses in the Exodus. And I know the blood of Jesus Christ symbolizes and embodies all this! The blood of Christ washes away our sins, and yes - Jesus the Christ was killed on a cross. He didn't fake it, he didn't have a substitute, he didn't die and stay buried. These are true heretical teachings that deny Christ died and rose again. If so then the blood is of no effect. But we know Christ did die and rose again, defeating death. His blood atones and it is this blood that holds all importance now. That same blood cleanses us if we receive Christ by faith and are born again through the act of the Holy Spirit. This is the all important true meaning of the blood which has been symbolized for thousands of years, but today many deny it, and even many so called Christian churches fear to speak of it!

So, we who believe Tolkien wrote an accurate record of Elven history and theology, how can we not confront these issues?
Please don't just read this and if something hits you the wrong way say "he's just an intollerant *whatever*"
Seriously, prove it wrong. Actually, don't bother. I've debated the false science and atheistic, humanistic arguments for years. I believe it takes an act and a revelation of the Holy Spirit to get through.

I have researched this stuff for 22 years as a born again Christian, and over 7 years of the Elven philosophies. I've studied the theology and science from both sides. I've seen the sorry and unproven excuses for abortion and homosexuality, and what they fail to report is the evidence that disproves their theories completely! Same with evolution and anything else on the Humanist agenda.

I'm not sitting on the fence any longer. I know I am of the Eldar. I know I am born again by the Holy Spirit (Sophia = the feminine) of God (Eru/Illuvatar), father of Yeshua (Jesus Christ).

The Elves of old - our ancestors, had to decide whether to stand against the powers of Morgoth, and Sauron, and the armies of Orcs and other evil beings. They did stand, and we are only here today because they did. Otherwise our world would be in the grips of an evil totalitarian regime with no freedom at all. We see the same forces of Morgoth assaulting us today and trying to regroup and gather against those who believe in the goodness of Eru, of God, and have respect for the Creation. Our ancestors took their stand.

I take the same stand.

Do you?

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Exactly where does witnessing for Christ take place in all of this?