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27th February 2003, 02:27 PM
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27th February 2003, 03:02 PM
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Come on Micaiah. Where is such a statement made by science?
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27th February 2003, 03:58 PM
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"When someone views God's Creation and asserts it happed by chance"
It didn't hapen by chance, though. God created it that way. Evolution is the tool he used. In the (approximate) words of someone I can't remember the name of, 'God did not make creation, he did something even more wondrous - He made creation make itself.'
*disengage christianity mode*
Or maybe it was made by scientists in another universe, who were experimenting with the nature of space time. And their universe was made by scientists in another universe who were...you get the idea.
Or maybe there are a great many universes and each one is different so at least one has to work.
Or maybe this is all a massive computer simulation run by robots.
All I'm saying is, there are ways the Universe could exist without a god creating it through creation. |
27th February 2003, 04:13 PM
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In the future, man finally discovers time travel. The first experiment is messed up (possibly by forgetting to convert from one unit to another). The time travel device explodes, and also travels back in time. The explosion destroys space time and earth, it also travels back through time and space and gives the big bang a nudge that sets it off and creates the universe.
Man is then predestined to exist, because they screwed up and started the universe.  Today at 12:58 PM PhantomLlama said this in Post #23 (http://www.christianforums.com/showt...839#post679839)
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"When someone views God's Creation and asserts it happed by chance"
It didn't hapen by chance, though. God created it that way. Evolution is the tool he used. In the (approximate) words of someone I can't remember the name of, 'God did not make creation, he did something even more wondrous - He made creation make itself.'
*disengage christianity mode*
Or maybe it was made by scientists in another universe, who were experimenting with the nature of space time. And their universe was made by scientists in another universe who were...you get the idea.
Or maybe there are a great many universes and each one is different so at least one has to work.
Or maybe this is all a massive computer simulation run by robots.
All I'm saying is, there are ways the Universe could exist without a god creating it through creation.
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27th February 2003, 04:20 PM
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27th February 2003, 04:22 PM
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So man was made in man's own image? Or man was created in the image of science? |
27th February 2003, 04:23 PM
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27th February 2003, 04:27 PM
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Knowledge also led to computers, does that make you evil for using one?
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27th February 2003, 04:45 PM
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Now here comes the big one, are you ready?
Knowledge lead to your ability to read. Without it, you couldnt have read the bible. Your understanding of the past is dirrectly related to your knowledge of reading.
Ignorance is pretty much bad though. but ive already rambled on about that in another thread, but I can here too 
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27th February 2003, 05:04 PM
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Knowledge is evil. Knowledge led to the atomic bomb, remember?
How many died to the atomic bomb?
How many died in the name of God?
Something here is evil, but I don't think it's knowledge.
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