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Old 15th February 2003, 11:03 PM
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But it is spinning backwards!

In the beginning according to science there was a big bang. But also, there was a spinning beginning. The universe started in a swirling motion and everything in the universe is a part of a spinning motion. Even there is a theory that as things spin off of the big bang, they expand in a swirling motion. Usually a clockwise motion. But not everything. There are planets that spin counterclockwise. There are moons that have counterclockwise orbits. There is even a whole galaxy that marches to the beat of a different drummer and is swirling counter clock wise.

What theory does science have to explain this? Nothing, zip, zero, zilch, nada. They have no explaination at all for this. What explaination does creationism have for these seemingly backward spinning heavenly bodies? Simple, in the beginning God knew that someone was going to come up with a theory to try to disprove creationism. So God put a reverse spin on parts of the universe, just to keep their theory from being so neat and tidy.
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Old 15th February 2003, 11:09 PM
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Re: But it is spinning backwards!

Today at 11:03 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showt...929#post655929)

Simple, in the beginning God knew that someone was going to come up with a theory to try to disprove creationism. So God put a reverse spin on parts of the universe, just to keep their theory from being so neat and tidy.
Is that in the Bible?
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Look everybody! Nonsense!

John: You understand basic physics, right? Things that start out spinning, when they collide with other things, can cease to spin or begin spinning in oddball directions. Neh? If you say otherwise, it would be the case that I would be unable to spin a top - After all, I'm changing it's spin.
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So john, you mean if I spin a basket ball and then drop it on the ground, its not supposed to spin the opposite direction when it bounces back? How odd, because it seems to happen to me all the time.

in the beginning God knew that someone was going to come up with a theory to try to disprove creationism.

Can you quote god on this? Or are you putting words into his mouth? Isnt doing that a sin?
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Re: Re: But it is spinning backwards!

Today at 11:09 PM Pete Harcoff said this in Post #2 Is that in the Bible?
What is a verse? According to the dictionay it is one of the numbered subdivisions of a chapter in the Bible.


Now what does uni mean as in unicycle? Uni means one. Now put the two of them together: Uni and verse. What do you have: Universe. God spoke the universe into existance in one verse.

If you doubt that, then you need to come up with a different word to use, because that is the meaning of the word.




 
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Today at 11:36 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #5 (http://www.christianforums.com/showt...966#post655966)

What is a verse? According to the dictionay it is one of the numbered subdivisions of a chapter in the Bible.<B></B>

Now what does uni mean as in unicycle? Uni means one. Now put the two of them together: Uni and verse. What do you have: Universe. God spoke the universe into existance in one verse.

If you doubt that, then you need to come up with a different word to use, because that is the meaning of the word.


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You didn't answer my question. I am not debating whether or not God created the universe. I am questioning where you got this idea that "God put a reverse spin on parts of the universe, just to keep their theory from being so neat and tidy."
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:rolleyes:

or verse could mean: To familiarize by study or experience.

So through your logic, Uni (one) verse (study or experience). One experience.

Or we could just look up the word, and we find:

"Universe:
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.
2.
a. The earth together with all its inhabitants and created things.
b. The human race.

3. The sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place.

n 1: everything that exists anywhere"


This reminds me of the joke.
Politic:
Poly: a greak work meaning many.
Tick: a blood sucking creature.

Politic: Many blood sucking creatures.

Today at 08:36 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #5 (http://www.christianforums.com/showt...966#post655966)

What is a verse? According to the dictionay it is one of the numbered subdivisions of a chapter in the Bible.


Now what does uni mean as in unicycle? Uni means one. Now put the two of them together: Uni and verse. What do you have: Universe. God spoke the universe into existance in one verse.

If you doubt that, then you need to come up with a different word to use, because that is the meaning of the word.




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Today at 11:32 PM Arikay said this in Post #4

So john, you mean if I spin a basket ball and then drop it on the ground, its not supposed to spin the opposite direction when it bounces back? How odd, because it seems to happen to me all the time.&nbsp;
Ok, what did they bounce off of so as to reverse their motion? Can you demonstate to me that two spinning object can reverse their spin, by crashing into each other?

Even in your example you have to put a reverse spin on the ball, if you want it to bounce back to you.
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Again, can you give us a quote from god, or did you just talk for god?
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Re: But it is spinning backwards!

Today at 11:03 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #1

In the beginning according to science there was a big bang. But also, there was a spinning beginning. The universe started in a swirling motion and everything in the universe is a part of a spinning motion. Even there is a theory that as things spin off of the big bang, they expand in a swirling motion. Usually a clockwise motion. But not everything. There are planets that spin counterclockwise. There are moons that have counterclockwise orbits. There is even a whole galaxy that marches to the beat of a different drummer and is swirling counter clock wise.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system. John, I swear you will make me believe in miracles. There's no natural explanation for how you can believe the drivel you foist on us.

What theory does science have to explain this? Nothing, zip, zero, zilch, nada.
Why should it? You're so vague, it's easier to believe that you just made it up.

They have no explaination at all for this. What explaination does creationism have for these seemingly backward spinning heavenly bodies?
Absolutely none whatsoever.

Simple, in the beginning God knew that someone was going to come up with a theory to try to disprove creationism.
This is your theory, not the Creationist theory. I'll file it with your other snippets of wisdom.

&nbsp;So God put a reverse spin on parts of the universe, just to keep their theory from being so neat and tidy.
I read&nbsp;this whole post&nbsp;just to hear you say "Goddidit" yet again?

That's five minutes of my life I'll never get back.

Wouldn't it have just been easier for God to sign his work like any other self-respecting artist? Maybe line up all the stars for a big ol' smiley face? How about putting His face on the moon?

Your God went through a lot of trouble to hide his work, only to pull the rug out from under us. Good thing you enlightened the rest of us before Judgement Day; He would've deep-fried all of us in hell for not believeing, even though He never bothered to spell out the Truth.

Such a God is hardly worthy of worship.
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