YEC vs OEC

Do you believe in a old or a young universe? Is it possible that both theorys are true, depending on how you determine the age of the universe? For example, they have photos of what they claim is a very young universe, becasue we know that time effects matter and light quite a bit different.

http://www.sciencenews.org/20030215/fob1.asp

 I believe in an old universe I have nothing to go on but just a belief.

 I believe Adam and Eve may have been created way way after the universe.  

 Hope I don't appear to silly on this one.

 Evee

Oh lordy I did sound silly I am out of here now! Evee

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It is not the bite that kills, it is the venom.

God has made it clear through the clues he left in nature that He created the Universe a long time ago.

I believe in an old universe because all evidence seems to point that way, I have no reason not to.

lol, you didn't sound silly.

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Okay good!
Thanks wblastyn
I have to worry about getting attacked sometimes. Evee

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It is not the bite that kills, it is the venom.

Well you might get attacked by people who believe if you don't interpret Genesis the same way they do then you aren't a Christian, which I do not believe, obviously since I believe the universe is ancient.

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I think that the universe is very, very old--based on what we know about all different kinds of things. I've yet to hear of a good theory that explains a young universe consistant with the natural world we live in.

Evee, I don't think you sounded silly either.

JohnR7, I don't think that the article is about pictures of "a very young universe" but about pictures of our own old universe when it was young based on the cosmic microwave background. The articles states that the "picture" of our universe when it was young supports the current cosmological models--part of that model being an ancient universe.

--tibac

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Each of us is a special creature, unlike any other. And yet we are all alike.

When we think of a year, we normally think of the time it takes for the summer to turn to autumn to winter and spring and on again to summer. In this way a year is measured by the movement of the sun through the sky (from our perspective anyway).

Some might say that this is the time it takes for the earth to do one lap of the sun

The ancient egyptians worked out that they could measure the exact length of a year by noting the exactly when the dog star appeared each year.

Both these methods are much in line with the teaching in genesis that the sun and stars are to mark seasons.

 

So if someone says that the universe is 14 billion years old, what exactly are they saying? Are we saying the earth has done 14 billion laps of the sun?

No because the people who say the universe is 14 billion years old also say that for a lot of this time our solar system wasn't even formed.

 

Any thoughts?

Is the Gap theory a workable theory? Could both the YEC and the OEC theorys of creation be true?