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29th January 2003, 01:54 PM
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In my Physics class we're going through thermodynamics and we learned about water. Now I knew water was 'backwards' and expanded when you froze it... but I did not know that it is most dence at four degrees celsius.
I'm just wondering how an evolutionist would attempt to explain this rather interesting happening 
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29th January 2003, 02:03 PM
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Reps: 562 (power: 0) | | | An evolutionist wouldn't be anymore qualified than anyone else, because you're talking about chemistry not biology. I'm neither a chemist nor a biologist but I seem to remember it has to do with the shape of the water molecule. When water freezes the hydrogen atoms are at the furthest point they can be from the oxygen atom so ice takes up more volume than the same mass of water.
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Originally posted by paulewog In my Physics class we're going through thermodynamics and we learned about water. Now I knew water was 'backwards' and expanded when you froze it... but I did not know that it is most dence at four degrees celsius.
I'm just wondering how an evolutionist would attempt to explain this rather interesting happening
/me thinks probably the same way a chemist would.
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29th January 2003, 02:18 PM
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29th January 2003, 02:28 PM
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Reps: 143,091 (power: 154) | | | An evolutionist would describe it the same way a physicist or chemist would. On the other hand, since most physicists and chemists ARE evolutionists, I guess it would be a good idea to go and ask one - that way you kill two birds with one stone.
Hint - it all has to do with the bonding angle of H2O
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29th January 2003, 02:49 PM
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Im only making a guess, but cold things contract, water expands because when it turns into ice it crystalizes and that makes it expand. However, water thats cold but not ready to turn into a crystal yet, would probably be the most dense state.
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Originally posted by paulewog In my Physics class we're going through thermodynamics and we learned about water. Now I knew water was 'backwards' and expanded when you froze it... but I did not know that it is most dence at four degrees celsius.
I'm just wondering how an evolutionist would attempt to explain this rather interesting happening
What's with the phrasing here. Seems awfully smug. Why do some people think that they've found crushing problems with evolutionary theory in concepts that are covered in basic science classes?
Here's a good explanation on a website for elementary school classes:
Why does water expand when it freezes?
So what miraculous explanation would evolution deniers give for this phenomenon?
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