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Philosophy

Somehow lately I've become more interested & astonished about.... is, than how things should be.

I'm reading philosophy.

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Very interesting for you I'm sure pace.

Did you have an actual point of philosophy you wanted to discuss, or was this just a general announcement?
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pace, i recommend u read CS Lewis....u'll love it
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Zen and the Art of Motocycle Maintaince is a good book on philosophy. I had a sucky teacher for philosophy so I never got too interested in it beyond what I could think up myself.

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Try David Hume.
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Originally posted by Sin of Man
Very interesting for you I'm sure pace.

Did you have an actual point of philosophy you wanted to discuss, or was this just a general announcement?
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Originally posted by seangoh
pace, i recommend u read CS Lewis....u'll love it
k, I'll check it out
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Rather than name this or that philosopher you should read (there will be several), I will make a more general recommendation: try to get Frederick Copleston's History of Western Philosophy. If memory serves, Copleston was a Jesuit scholar, and over the course of several years he produced a massive, multi-volume work that is still highly regarded.

It's true, Copleston's history was intended for use in seminaries, but, in fairness to him, he is upfront about his biases (his deep interest in Aristotle and Aquinas is evident). He generally treats philosophers he is not particularly sympathetic to with evenhandedness and high standards of scholarship, something I can't say about some other authors I've read who tried to tackle the history of philosophy. His lengthy discussions of Plato, Aristotle and the various schools in Greece and Rome that sprung up in their wake are some of the best writings that I know of for those subjects.
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Try David Hume.
Actually I had in mind some sentences from him. Yes, I like him too..

 

David Hume (1711-1776) :

" In any moral system I've so far met, I've always noticed this: The author arguments a while normally, and concludes that there is a God, or another acting in human affairs. But suddenly (later in he text) I'm supprised to find - instead of the ordinary connections of saying 'is' and 'is not' - that statements are connected to a 'should' or a 'should not'. This change has been payed little attention to, but is nonetherless utterly important. Because since this 'should' or 'should not' express one or another new relation or statement, it's necessary that one makes notice of it and explain it. And at the same time it's important that there is given a reason why something that seems so thruly incomprehensible, namely how this new relation (x should y) can be deducted from other thing that's completely different from it. But since authors don't seem to go by this carefull-rule I allow myself recomending it to the readers. And I'm convised that this little awareness will [throw coal] over all the normal moral systems, and lets face it that the distinction between the moral garbage and the valuable are neither based only on relation between (outer) objects, or understood though reason or  intellect. "
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You could try Ayn Rand.  I also find the philosophies of the ancient Greeks to be fascinating.
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