New four winged fossil find

I can't see a thread on this yet, so apologies if there is one.

here is the peer reviewed paper...and nature article. 

 Can be seen here (not sure for how long)

http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPa...e01342_fs.html


Nature article
http://www.nature.com/nsu/030120/030120-7.html

  

 

question:
why do fossils always see to look as if they have been buried alive , or not long after death.

is this evidence for a flood

when an animal dies in the wild is is common that its bones will be scattered, due toi scavengers etc...how do these fossils get preserved this way?

I seen this on another forum. If it's true then like someone told me it means that it will cast adifferent light on the evolution of flight.

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I couldn't find any sources that said what kind of sediment the Microraptor gui was found in but I assume that it was found in limestone just like Archaeopteryx fossils (an assumption mind you). Limestone is a sedimentary rock that consists mostly of Calcium Carbonate. It is normally formed by the continuous addition of layer upon layer over a very long period of time. This, of course, creates the layers upon layers of limestone rock found in limestone formations. If this animal was found in limestone then I doubt very much so that it was caused by a flood which lasted for one year. This scenario doesn't allow enough time for all that Calcium Carbonate to form and doesn't (as far as I can tell) allow the rock to be so well stratified.

And in case anyone cares, I'm hoping that troodontids are found to be more closely related to birds then those blasted dromeosaurs. I doubt it, but I can always hope.

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So where are all the YECs with their "it's still a bird!" mantra?

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I thought it would be "its still a lizard"

it will be humourous when the various creationist sites disagree which "kind" it is

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why wasn't in the science news.has censorship started

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A bird dies and falls into a still pond eventually sinks and becomes covered in mud and silt.over years it become buried. in china there are loess deposits a thousand metres thick so Judge it is possible

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Maybe it was just a member of a species of 4 winged reptilian birdlike creatures that became extinct?

Pretty neat imo.

Some insects have 4 wings (Dragon Flies come to mind).  Where are four winged insects in the "evolution" of insect flight?  (Or do they have any idea how that happened?).

I agree with the above statement (about the possibility that it is simply a creature).  Clearly some dinosaurs flew or glided.  And some birds don't fly.  I'm still keeping an eye out for the things with "half" wings and "proto" feathers

Anyway, you guys won't have to wait to long for your chuckles.  AiG has something on their front page about how they are preparing an article on the 4 winged dinos.

I'm curious about the possibility that it is a hoax myself.  Wasn't there some hoax fossil that came out of China recently?

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The pictures look good, but I'm no expert.

Actualy I have seen many fosils, not the museum casts that have been "prettied-up" for display but the actual fosils.

Many dinosaur fosils show signs of predation 9teeth marks) boring incect holes, weathering caused by long term exposure to air before burrial...

The nice and alive looking fosils are the exception rather than the rule, but most people only see the museum displays which are mostly copies of the best fosils rather than the normal fosil finds.

No, unless you believe that the flood was not one big one but many millions of tiny ones spread out over millions of years.

These ones out of China are in a very fine sedimentary rock that forms in lakes and shallow seas, they preserve some of the best detail seen in dinosaur fosils. Most of the time when one finds dinosaur fosils it is a bone here and a bone there, very rarely a full skeliton and even more rare that skin, organs and feathers are found. That is why these recent finds in China are causing such a stir, they are sowing us more per single find than we usualy expect to learn with hundreds of finds.