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Are you Monistic, a Dichotomist or Trichotomist?

Please tell me why and back it up with a couple of your favorite verses that support your opinion.

I'd be amazingly suprised to find out anyone here in Ba is Monistic... I find it easily broken down. However, I'm not sure yet if I am a di or tri, and am studying.. just thought it'd be interesting to see what you all think.

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They are views that different people have on what kind of being we are.

Are we a 1 part being? (Monism) - our body, spirit, soul all combined, no part can live without the other.

Are we a 2 part being? (Dichotomy) - We have a physical body and a seperate non-physical part (soul/spirit/intellect/feelings) and one can exist w/out the other.

Are we a 3 part being? (Trichotomy) - We have a body, a soul and a seperate spirit.

**Note** just for the purposes of this conversation, lets NOT include The Holy Spirit of God in us. Just the parts that are ours before salvation.


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Put me down as a Trichotomist. In light of 1 Thessalonians 5:23 and Hebrews 4:12, as well as numerous OT references, I believe scripture is pretty clear on this point.

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Put me down as a Trichotomist. In light of 1 Thessalonians 5:23 and Hebrews 4:12, as well as numerous OT references, I believe scripture is pretty clear on this point.

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Originally Posted by Cright View Post
Please tell me why and back it up with a couple of your favorite verses that support your opinion.

I'd be amazingly suprised to find out anyone here in Ba is Monistic... I find it easily broken down. However, I'm not sure yet if I am a di or tri, and am studying.. just thought it'd be interesting to see what you all think.

Thanks,
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Dichotomy. Soul/Spirit are synonymous terms. We are our soul, which is eternal. And then there is the body. Hence I am a dichotomist. I think I had to write a paper about this matter 3 semesters ago. It was interesting to research and ponder the choices. I agree, Id be surprised to find a monist amongst the flock.
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The majority of members posting here prolly don't know the meaning of those words.
I agree with Mark and say Dichotomy.

Here's a good online article explaining: Dichotomy & Trichotomy Question
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The Lords Envoy - do you still have the paper? I'd love to read it! I can PM you my email address.

Red - Thanks for the link!

Razorbuck - The Hebrews passage you mentioned... 4:12 (NIV) 12For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

I don't see this as saying that the soul/spirit are not of the same entity... because it compares with joints and marrow (which are of the same body).
It's also described as only being able to be seperated by the word of God, so it's harder to split than the joints and marrow which can be split by a double-edge sword.

This is actually one of the 1st verses that made me think that the "di" point of view is correct.

This is where I'm getting confused....
I think that we have a body made of many parts (arms, legs, joints, muscle), and an "inmaterial part" made up of the mind, spirit/soul, intellect, emotions etc.)
I also think that the bible uses the word spirit and soul interchangably to describe the inmaterial part of us.
What I don't understand is if the bible ALWAYS uses them interchangably, and if not, what is the difference between the two.

Since they are not tangeable it's hard to describe. If I could not see tendons and muscles, would I ever know the difference between them? If one includes more of an emotional process and one more of a knowledge/intelect process is the bible clear on that?

I have a feeling that they are slightly different, but still part of ONE inmaterial body, just like we have ONE physical body.

make sense?

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