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Originally Posted by Vaneeza Malkah
I read the Messianic Judaism Wikipedia a long time back and it was rather insulting and less than attractive...
I found nothing there except an empty thread set aside for us..... and the point of the CF Wiki is to permit folks to set the record straight
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is worse.
"A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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looks it's changed a little, the last time I read it it was obviously written by someone who had a strong disagreeance with the messianic movement.
oh I'm speaking of the CF wiki - sorry to hear about the other but I suppose that such is not unexpected given the majority view of Messianics by believers, non-believers, Jews and non-Jews - ill-informed, mis-informed and often feeling threatened .....
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is worse.
"A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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I thiought it was time to bring out today's special...
First the cafe has been redecorated for the season...
The table is has been set with the best dishes, a low floral arrangement, a tablecloth, and two candles and candlesticks.
A Haggadah at each setting (or every other setting.)
On the chairs a pillow or cushion for leaning.
On the table near Uncle Hiram is a small basin of water for the hand washing and a towel to dry the hands.
On the table within everyone's reach
Small bowls of salty water.
Wine goblet or glass.
Extra bitter herbs and charoset for a large family or gathering.
A plate of matzah.
A bottle of wine or grape juice (one bottle per every six to eight people).
So now are you ready...
Acorn Squash With Apple Stuffing (Serves 4)
2 acorn squash (1 1/4 lb.)
2 Tbsp. melted margarine
salt
cinnamon
STUFFING:
1/4 cup raisins
1/4 cup sweet wine
3 medium apples
4 Tbsp. margarine
1/4 cup brown sugar
1 Tbsp. lemon juice
Halve the squashes and scoop out seeds and stringy interiors. Trim undersides so halves will sit flat. Brush cut surfaces with melted margarine and sprinkle with salt and cinnamon. Place in baking pan with cut sides down. Put 1/2 cup water in pan, or enough to just cover the bottom of pan. Bake squash 30 minutes in preheated 350~ oven.
While squash is baking, soak raisins in wine to plump. Chop apples to 1/2 inch cubes, peeled or unpeeled. In small frying pan melt margarine and add apples. Cook 3-5 minutes, until slightly wilted. Stir in sugar and lemon juice.
When squash has cooked 30 minutes, turn cut sides up. Drain raisins, add to apple mixture. Then fill squash cavities. Cover and bake 20-30 minutes more or until tender.
Serve this with
Broccoli Knishes
1 cup mashed potatoes
1/3 cup matzah meal
2 tbsp. potato starch
1/2 small onion, finely chopped
2 egg whites or 1/4 cup Passover egg substitute
1/2 tsp. black pepper
1/4 tsp. salt
1 cup fresh or frozen broccoli, steamed and finely chopped
Cooking spray
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees.
In a bowl combine the potatoes, matzah meal, potato starch, onion, egg whites, pepper and salt and knead together. Divide the dough into 6 balls and flatten each. Divide the broccoli evenly onto each circle, fold over, and press edges to seal.
Generously coat a baking sheet with the cooking spray. Arrange the knishes in a single layer and place the baking sheet on the bottom rack of the oven. Bake for 15 minutes on each side. Serve hot. Serves 6.
And this...
SWEET STYLE GEFILTE FISH
BROTH
Fish Bones from fish store
2-3 Carrots
2 celery ribs
2-3 small onions
2-3 teaspoons salt
1/3 cup sugar
GEFILTE FISH
1 pound dore, ground
1/2 pound whitefish, ground
1/2 pound pike, ground
2 eggs
l medium minced onion
l large minced carrot
l stalk minced celery
1/3 cup matzo meal, about
1 cup ice water, about
2 1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 - 3/4 tsp. black pepper
1/2 - 3/4 cup sugar
BROTH:
Water to cover fish bones, plus about 1/3 cup sugar, 2-3 teaspoons salt, celery, carrots, and two to three small quartered onions
Mince fish (even though it is ground) with a hand mincer or in food processor to make fluffier, adding in about 1/4 cup ice water as you do this. Make sure fish is minced well, then proceed to mix in remaining ingredients as for making hamburgers, adding a bit more ice water in small amounts to fluff up fish if it looks too pasty. (Again, this can be done in a food processor or by using an old fashioned chopper (a double bladed thing with a wood handle - still avail. in kitchen stores, called a "hoch masser" in Yiddish - transliteral spelling).
If mixture is very loose, add more matzoh meal (but chilling will help). Chill, for easier handling, then shape into balls, using wet hands (re-dip as necessary) to form balls.
Bring broth to a boil, lower to simmer. Add fish balls and simmer coverer for 2 hours. Chill well.
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Yum!!
Just in time for dinner!!
Shavua tov all!!
Originally Posted by visionary
I thiought it was time to bring out today's special...
First the cafe has been redecorated for the season...
The table is has been set with the best dishes, a low floral arrangement, a tablecloth, and two candles and candlesticks.
A Haggadah at each setting (or every other setting.)
On the chairs a pillow or cushion for leaning.
On the table near Uncle Hiram is a small basin of water for the hand washing and a towel to dry the hands.
On the table within everyone's reach
Small bowls of salty water.
Wine goblet or glass.
Extra bitter herbs and charoset for a large family or gathering.
A plate of matzah.
A bottle of wine or grape juice (one bottle per every six to eight people).
So now are you ready...Serve this with
And this...
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is worse.
"A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Hi, I have never eaten here before but heard all good things. (leans back on cushion). I am starving and a little nervous. So many new people! But I am glad to meet you all!
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*Henaynei passes onlinealice a bowl of baba ganoush and some warm unleavened flat bread....
here, enjoy this while we wait for the rest to arrive
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is worse.
"A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Yum Passover We will have a huge house full and not sure but probably all on the floor. Our family tradition is to read the part about reclining at the table while lying down at a low table that is huge we only have out once a year. This year I may have to put big legs on it and eat in regular chairs.
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speaking of reclining, here is how many pakistanis recline while they eat: yes that is seat cushions and pillows to recline on when we have guests (sometimess 15-20 in our small 700 square foot apartment) we set the room like this, though we do reserve the table for the elder people...
I like the reclining at the table. Maybe we can have both, but I think we will only have a u shaped table arangement to actually accomodate two to three other families. LOL that will only double our company... so let me count...14+5+4+2=25 and of those under 6 there will be 5. We should be able to fit everyone just fine. We made it through Hanukkah just fine with 32.
I'll have more help with food this time I think.
bananna
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Since the ultimate goal is to actively love one another in the name of our God, we may disagree on doctrines, but we all agree the poor need feeding, we all agree the sick should be tended to, the prisoners visited and the naked clothed.
When we involve ourselves in living out God's love - love in action, knits us together as one body. It's like a little bit of heaven on earth. - A. Blackwell
but I suppose that such is not unexpected given the majority view of Messianics by believers, non-believers, Jews and non-Jews 
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