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Old 30th July 2006, 08:47 AM
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Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth

Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth

We do not seem to talk very much about God's command to multiply and fill the earth. People wonder if evolution is in the Bible and this sounds a little bit like the theory of evolution where God starts out small and things grow and expand from there to fill the earth. There are things in this world that can grow and expand very fast. Trees for example put out a LOT of seeds. One tree can produce a whole forest of trees.

So there is no question that God could fit the whole world on the Ark. The animals could have been small, they did not have to be full grown animals. Even they say you can fit the whole universe into something the size of a seed. But they do not have faith to believe you can fit the whole world into something the size of a football field.

It is funny how they have faith for one and not the other.

Genesis 1:27-28
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. [28] Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Genesis 8:17
Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth."
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Originally Posted by JohnR7
Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth

We do not seem to talk very much about God's command to multiply and fill the earth. People wonder if evolution is in the Bible and this sounds a little bit like the theory of evolution where God starts out small and things grow and expand from there to fill the earth. There are things in this world that can grow and expand very fast. Trees for example put out a LOT of seeds. One tree can produce a whole forest of trees.

So there is no question that God could fit the whole world on the Ark. The animals could have been small, they did not have to be full grown animals. Even they say you can fit the whole universe into something the size of a seed. But they do not have faith to believe you can fit the whole world into something the size of a football field.

It is funny how they have faith for one and not the other.

Genesis 1:27-28
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. [28] Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Genesis 8:17
Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth."
If we're going to bring God into the science of fitting things into the Ark, why not just say Noah had a bad of holding to put animals in? Neither is verifiable by science.
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Originally Posted by random_guy
If we're going to bring God into the science of fitting things into the Ark,
So why is it that science can fit all of the known universe into something smaller than a seed.
But they can not figure out how God got one biodiverse ecosystem onto the Ark?

The reason why is that evos do not understand how biodiversity works.
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Originally Posted by JohnR7
So why is it that science can fit all of the known universe into something smaller than a seed.
But they can not figure out how God got one biodiverse ecosystem onto the Ark?

The reason why is that evos do not understand how biodiversity works.
John, how many animals would you say were needed to be on the Ark?
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Originally Posted by JohnR7
So why is it that science can fit all of the known universe into something smaller than a seed.
Because that is the conclusion that the evidence requires us to draw.
But they can not figure out how God got one biodiverse ecosystem onto the Ark?
Because a study of biodiversity falsifies that this event ever happened.
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Originally Posted by JohnR7
So why is it that science can fit all of the known universe into something smaller than a seed.
But they can not figure out how God got one biodiverse ecosystem onto the Ark?

The reason why is that evos do not understand how biodiversity works.
If you're going to bring God into the explanation, it's pointless to use science. God can do whatever he want. For all we know, through God, Noah built a DNA cloning machine, fit all the biodiversity on the Ark by bringing only the DNA of animals, then cloned them when he landed. Where did the machine come from and how did he collect the DNA? God did it.
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Originally Posted by Jase
John, how many animals would you say were needed to be on the Ark?
What was on the Ark is in the Bible. Seven each of the clean animals and two each of the unclean animals.

Genesis 7:2-3
You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, a male and his female; two each of animals that are unclean, a male and his female; [3] also seven each of birds of the air, male and female, to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth.

As far as I am concerned, we are talking about domesticated animals, not the wild ones.
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Originally Posted by random_guy
If you're going to bring God into the explanation, it's pointless to use science.
So, science can not handle the challange?
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