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30th July 2006, 01:00 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Answer me these questions 1. Acording to basic principles of the universe, nothing is created. Therefore everything is just altered weather it be solids or liquids, or, matter and anti-matter. So why do people say god created things, thats imposible. Maybe though god has the power to alter the contineum of our matter/anit-matter constant. But heres the fact, god never created anything.
2. If god did create things why did he create abortion, terrorism, the halocaust, AIDS, etc...
3.Why did god make scientology if all he wants people to do is worship him, thats taking away worshipers.
4.Why does god want to be worshiped all the time?
5.Why do people take the bible literaly. Sure, its good to look for it for advice but you cant believe all of its true? I mean, look at scientology. It was a science fiction novel and now 5 mil people worldwide believe it.
6.2000 years ago people thought the earth was flat, and that it was the center of the universe. But they assumed this because it was BELIEF. Now we know those are all false because we have proven them with FACTS. So eventually, since the bible is BELIEF we will prove it wrong using FACTS.
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30th July 2006, 01:15 AM
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30th July 2006, 01:18 AM
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Reps: 4,008 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by yivkX360 1. Acording to basic principles of the universe, nothing is created. Therefore everything is just altered weather it be solids or liquids, or, matter and anti-matter. So why do people say god created things, thats imposible. Maybe though god has the power to alter the contineum of our matter/anit-matter constant. But heres the fact, god never created anything.
2. If god did create things why did he create abortion, terrorism, the halocaust, AIDS, etc...
3.Why did god make scientology if all he wants people to do is worship him, thats taking away worshipers.
4.Why does god want to be worshiped all the time?
5.Why do people take the bible literaly. Sure, its good to look for it for advice but you cant believe all of its true? I mean, look at scientology. It was a science fiction novel and now 5 mil people worldwide believe it.
6.2000 years ago people thought the earth was flat, and that it was the center of the universe. But they assumed this because it was BELIEF. Now we know those are all false because we have proven them with FACTS. So eventually, since the bible is BELIEF we will prove it wrong using FACTS.
give those a thinker
What does this have to do with Creation and Evolution? Shouldn't this be better off in GA?
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30th July 2006, 01:20 AM
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Reps: 93,489,950,375,983,120 (power: 93,489,950,376,010) | | | 1. That's an Apologetics question in disguise.
2. That's a blatant Apologetics question.
3. God didn't make Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard did.
4. That's an Apologetics question.
5. More Apologetics. If you want to discuss literalism in Genesis, it would be appropriate for this subforum.
6. Actually 2,000 years ago, not only did science know the world wasn't flat, but the circumferance had been fairly accurately measured.
All of your questions are based on inaccuracies or belong in Apologetics.
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30th July 2006, 01:21 AM
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Reps: 93,489,950,375,983,120 (power: 93,489,950,376,010) | | Originally Posted by random_guy What does this have to do with Creation and Evolution? Shouldn't this be better off in GA?
I chalk it up to a combination of Newbie mistake and that s/he can't post in GA until post 101.
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30th July 2006, 01:28 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by yivkX360 1. Acording to basic principles of the universe, nothing is created.
The word created in the Bible is the same word they use for when they cut down a tree and make something out of the wood. It does not imply that there was nothing there before. 2. If god did create things why did he create abortion, terrorism, the halocaust, AIDS, etc...
Man and the devil have made a mess out of God's creation. But He is in the process of restoring it back to His origional intention and purpose. 3.Why did god make scientology if all he wants people to do is worship him, thats taking away worshipers.
God did not make it, it is the teaching of man. 4.Why does god want to be worshiped all the time?
We can do things man's way or we can do things God's way. When we worship God we acknowledge that His way is the best way and we express our desire to follow His plan and purpose for us. Also we give thanks for all He has done for us. 5.Why do people take the bible literaly.
There are basic rules for Bible interpretation that people learn when they go to Bible School. 6.2000 years ago people thought the earth was flat,
That is a urban myth that has been falsifed. | 
30th July 2006, 09:51 PM
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30th July 2006, 11:03 PM
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Reps: 27,518 (power: 47) | | Originally Posted by yivkX360 1. Acording to basic principles of the universe, nothing is created.
I didn't know that. How do you know? 2. If god did create things why did he create abortion, terrorism, the halocaust, AIDS, etc...
Does one create events in the same way as creating matter? 3.Why did god make scientology if all he wants people to do is worship him, thats taking away worshipers.
Free will? 4.Why does god want to be worshiped all the time?
Who doesn't! 5.Why do people take the bible literaly. Sure, its good to look for it for advice but you cant believe all of its true?
It's easier than trying to sort out the crazy bits from the reasonable bits. 6.2000 years ago people thought the earth was flat, and that it was the center of the universe. But they assumed this because it was BELIEF. Now we know those are all false because we have proven them with FACTS. So eventually, since the bible is BELIEF we will prove it wrong using FACTS.
Whatever you say.
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31st July 2006, 04:30 AM
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Reps: 2,998,824 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by yivkX360 1. Acording to basic principles of the universe, nothing is created. Therefore everything is just altered weather it be solids or liquids, or, matter and anti-matter.
Ok. 2. If god did create things why did he create abortion, terrorism, the halocaust, AIDS, etc...
Explain how abortion, terrorism, the haolcaust, and AIDS are just altered, and not man made. 3.Why did god make scientology if all he wants people to do is worship him, thats taking away worshipers.
Explain scientology via your alteration theory. 4.Why does god want to be worshiped all the time?
Why do humans want to be worshipped all the time? Before you say they don't, answer this:
Did you ever want to be famous? Popular? Noticed? 5.Why do people take the bible literaly. Sure, its good to look for it for advice but you cant believe all of its true?
Why do people take science literally? Why do people take anything literally? 6.2000 years ago people thought the earth was flat, and that it was the center of the universe. But they assumed this because it was BELIEF. Now we know those are all false because we have proven them with FACTS. So eventually, since the bible is BELIEF we will prove it wrong using FACTS.
Cool. Can you show me some of those facts now please? | 
31st July 2006, 09:57 AM
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Reps: 6,921,205,933,432,411 (power: 6,921,205,933,444) | | Originally Posted by Nomenclature Why do people take science literally? Why do people take anything literally?
Science is meant to be taken literally. There is no other way. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |