The Rapture

youdahman · #51 31st July 2006, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Love321

A QUESTION TO THE POST TRIB.........BELIEF..........

IF ON THE LAST DAY......................CHRIST CALLS HIS CHURCH HOME.
FIRST THE DEAD AND THEN THE LIVING...................

*WHO IS LEFT ON EARTH?

THE ANSWER.............NO ONE.

SO THEN.......................*WHO GOES INTO THE MILLENNIUM?
ANSWER..........................NO ONE.

THEN *WHO DO WE THE CHURCH .............RULE AND REIGN OVER?

WELL IT SEEMS WE ARE ALL IN NEW GLORIFIED BODIES............
SO THERE IS NO FLESH LEFT ON EARTH ..............TO RULE OVER.............

(Please excuse the large type.......sometimes I can’t find my glasses lol)

God Bless
Love321

From my belief and my study of scripture, when Jesus comes back only righteous living and dead will be ressurrected and will reign with Christ a 1000 years in heaven, and in the meantime Satan is bound during that same 1000 years on earth.

I believe during that 1000 years, God will show us every single person who was not saved reason why they weren't saved and show how they had every chance to repent, etc. Because the bible does say that there would be no more pain, sorrow etc. how can this be if we know our loved ones are

A. BURNING IN HELL FOR ETERNITY
B.Thier not in heaven with us.

God will show us his righteous judgment, and also the bible does say we will take part in judging the unsaved, how i do not know.

Perhaps you are taking these verses too literally? Revelation is highly symbolic. Are you saying that all the saved millions and billions will rule earth? HRmMmm. Are you saying that the righteous will reign over the unsaved liek thier our slaves if pre trib is correct?

Christ is ruling now, he rules the universe soOOoo... yes he is reigning, even if the earth is empty.

Love321 · #52 31st July 2006, 02:13 AM

Yes........Each group saved during different dispensations of time ......has different duties to perform.

The Church is the Bride of Christ and enjoys the 1,000 year Honeymoon upon earth (chapter 20 vs. 4). They reign as rulers kings and priests..... (1 Peter 2:9 and Rev 1:6).

The 144,000 serve as body guards of the Lamb and His Bride. ..... (chapter 14 vs. 4).

The Gentiles saved during the Tribulation Period will be Temple Servants, waiting on Christ and His Bride. They serve in the Glorious Temple ... (described in Ezekiel... chapters 40 – 48) which is set up immediately after Russia- under the names of Gog,
Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Rosh- is destroyed (Ezekiel 38 and 39).

Russia would march, then Antichrist would be smashed and the Lord would return with His bride. At that time the millennial Temple is erected and the Gentiles serve.

Someone has to be left on earth in a physical body of flesh and blood.........to go into the Millennium.

God Bless

inhisdebt · #53 31st July 2006, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Love321

Yes........Each group saved during different dispensations of time ......has different duties to perform.

The Church is the Bride of Christ and enjoys the 1,000 year Honeymoon upon earth (chapter 20 vs. 4). They reign as rulers kings and priests..... (1 Peter 2:9 and Rev 1:6).

The 144,000 serve as body guards of the Lamb and His Bride. ..... (chapter 14 vs. 4).

The Gentiles saved during the Tribulation Period will be Temple Servants, waiting on Christ and His Bride. They serve in the Glorious Temple ... (described in Ezekiel... chapters 40 – 48) which is set up immediately after Russia- under the names of Gog,
Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Rosh- is destroyed (Ezekiel 38 and 39).

Russia would march, then Antichrist would be smashed and the Lord would return with His bride. At that time the millennial Temple is erected and the Gentiles serve.

Someone has to be left on earth in a physical body of flesh and blood.........to go into the Millennium.

God Bless

There are no dispensations, all are saved by christ, all were saved by the blood of christ, thus one price was paid for all and all are the bride of christ

Love321 · #54 31st July 2006, 02:18 AM

See if the Rapture happens on the last day............first the dead and then the living........
The living is every one........ of Christs sheep...... still standing on earth..........Now they are raised up......

Hence the evil are cast into hell...............

So that would leave the world pretty empty.................

On that note ..............there is no one here .................no one to go into the Millineum.

See what I mean?

Echo..................there is nobody here...................of flesh and blood.

Everyone is in a new glorified body.

God Bless
Love321

inhisdebt · #55 31st July 2006, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Love321

See if the Rapture happens on the last day............first the dead and then the living........
The living is every one........ of Christs sheep...... still standing on earth..........Now they are raised up......

Hence the evil are cast into hell...............

So that would leave the world pretty empty.................

On that note ..............there is no one here .................no one to go into the Millineum.

See what I mean?

Echo..................there is nobody here...................of flesh and blood.

Everyone is in a new glorified body.

God Bless
Love321

Wrong please go to ezekial and study it from there

Love321 · #56 31st July 2006, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by inhisdebt

There are no dispensations, all are saved by christ, all were saved by the blood of christ, thus one price was paid for all and all are the bride of christ

My statement refers to different dispensatins of time.
Thats a different page.

God Bless
Love321

inhisdebt · #57 31st July 2006, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Love321

My statement refers to different dispensatins of time.
Thats a different page.

God Bless
Love321

There can be no different dispensations in time or otherwise if all are saved through the blood of christ then all are saved by the same blood, thus one price for all. rewards are based on labors but salvation is not a reward, if one suffers in christ then all suffer as we are one body in christ

jeffweeder · #58 31st July 2006, 02:43 AM

love321,
Hi,
What did Jesus say he would do on the last day?

If he raises us up on the last day, then this is rapture day.

1thess 4 says that we will not go before the ones who have fallen asleep.
The dead are raised, and those alive at the time are "CAUGHT UP " WITH THEM, TO MEET HIM .
Paul expands on this further, when he talks about- Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.
we shall not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump
It is ressurection first, then rapture.

Love321 · #59 31st July 2006, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by inhisdebt

There can be no different dispensations in time or otherwise if all are saved through the blood of christ then all are saved by the same blood, thus one price for all. rewards are based on labors but salvation is not a reward, if one suffers in christ then all suffer as we are one body in christ

The seven seals and seven bowl judgments are events of different dispensations of time.

See I refer to times....... and you refer to Salvation in the Lord...........we are not on the same page.

I don’t think you can answer my question original question.......

God Bless
Love321

inhisdebt · #60 31st July 2006, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Love321

The seven seals and seven bowl judgments are events of different dispensations of time.

See I refer to times....... and you refer to Salvation in the Lord...........we are not on the same page.

I don’t think you can answer my question original question.......

God Bless
Love321

No the 7 seals and 7 viles of wrath are different forms of judgment. the OT jewish saints and the new testiment christian saints are different dispensations of saints.

Yes........Each group saved during different dispensations of time ......has different duties to perform.

The Church is the Bride of Christ and enjoys the 1,000 year Honeymoon upon earth (chapter 20 vs. 4). They reign as rulers kings and priests..... (1 Peter 2:9 and Rev 1:6).

The 144,000 serve as body guards of the Lamb and His Bride. ..... (chapter 14 vs. 4).

The Gentiles saved during the Tribulation Period will be Temple Servants, waiting on Christ and His Bride. They serve in the Glorious Temple ... (described in Ezekiel... chapters 40 – 48) which is set up immediately after Russia- under the names of Gog,
Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Rosh- is destroyed (Ezekiel 38 and 39).

Russia would march, then Antichrist would be smashed and the Lord would return with His bride. At that time the millennial Temple is erected and the Gentiles serve.

Someone has to be left on earth in a physical body of flesh and blood.........to go into the Millennium.

here are the statements you presented, no mention of judgements here. Regardless the time of the saint, the price was the same. God will not show favoritism to one and then not to the other, as in your one is the bride while the other is in tribulation scenario.