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15th July 2006, 04:56 PM
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Reps: 5,472,665,518,922,035 (power: 0) | | | Kent Hovind Arrested... Kent Hovind arrest on more than 50 federal counts.... http://pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps...607140333/1006 he indictment also says the Hovinds' made cash withdrawals from AmSouth Bank in a manner that evaded federal requirements for reporting cash transactions.
The withdrawals were for $9,500 or $9,600, just below the $10,000 starting point for reporting cash transactions.
Most of the withdrawals were days apart. For example, the indictment shows three withdrawals of $9,500 each on July 20, July 23 and July 26 in 2001.
The smell of guilt. I think he made it easy...
If you're going to play the ignorance card when they catch you, you have to have played the card the entire time. Meaning, you take the lump sum and shoot it off to somewhere else before the reporting is done and the IRS wants their money.... er. hypothetically.
He just chose to do it under the radar and it smells rank. I guess he thought the IRS had never seen this before.
He also is claiming that "he doesn't know what he was arrested for" or what have you which is his way of trying to get the easy way out. I'm sure he doesn't know why he was arrested...(sarcasm).
Anyone think he's lying here? Can we answer that ? | 
15th July 2006, 05:08 PM
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15th July 2006, 06:00 PM
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Reps: 54,806,534,063,437,296 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by vossler Whether this is true or not I haven't a clue and won't comment on. What is disturbing is that a fellow Christian is seemingly gloating over this event. I'm at a loss to understand why.
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15th July 2006, 06:38 PM
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15th July 2006, 07:00 PM
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I didn't know it was a crime to withdraw under $10,000 from the bank, even if done a number of times. Some people just like privacy.
The article says Hovind is charged with failure to pay $473,818 in federal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes on employees at his Creation Science Evangelism/Ministry. This is no crime if those employees are contractors (as is apparently Hovind's position). It's the contractor's responsibility to pay social security, medicare, and income taxes on their income, not Hovind's.
The article points out that Hovind's Dinosaur Adventure Land closed because Hovind failed to obtain a building permit during the 2002 construction. Hovind spent thousands of dollars fighting for the right to exempt this religious park from needing a building permit for reasons of Separation of Church and state. He could have just paid a few bucks for the permit and saved himself a lot of money and hassle.
The only "crime" Hovind is guilty of is trying to fight for freedom. But, freedom is the enemy of Evolution. The anti-God doctrine of Evolution can only thrive where the state promotes it while suppressing Christianity.
So, what was Hovind arrested for? | 
15th July 2006, 08:27 PM
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Reps: 5,472,665,518,922,035 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Poke "Theistic"
Why in quotes Poke? | 
15th July 2006, 08:30 PM
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Reps: 1,984,022,293,840,305,920 (power: 1,984,022,293,840,324) | | Originally Posted by pensacolanewsjournal Over Kent Hovind's protests, the judge took away his passport and guns  WHAT? ...Hovind claimed belonged to his church.
Oh that's alright then. | 
15th July 2006, 08:30 PM
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Reps: 5,038,481,752,567,930 (power: 5,038,481,752,583) | | If Hovind is guilty then it is a terrible witness for Christ, Render to Caeser what is Caeser's. Originally Posted by TEBeliever Why in quotes Poke?
I think we all know why.
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15th July 2006, 09:41 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by theFijian If Hovind is guilty then it is a terrible witness for Christ, Render to Caeser what is Caeser's.
You think Hovind is a terrible witness for Christ if he's guilty of the non-crimes he's accused of: hiring people as contractors rather than as employees, vigerously defending his rights (what the article calls "impeding an IRS investigation"), and of making bank withdrawals of under $10,000.
How so?
This really has nothing to do with failure to render to Caeser what is Caeser's. Caeser still gets his money (e.g. from estimated tax payments instead of payroll withholdings.)
Again, the only thing Hovind is guilty of is fighting for freedom. Hovind should be admired for this. | 
15th July 2006, 09:44 PM
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Reps: 5,472,665,518,922,035 (power: 0) | | | Hey Poke, I'm hoping maybe you'll actually answer this one:
Why is Evolutions worst enemy Freedom?
This is another outta left field statement without even a hint of any explaination. Can you break your mold and elaborate for us? |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |