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27th June 2006, 03:08 PM
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Reps: 5,472,665,518,922,035 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Willtor Godwin's Law! w00t!
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27th June 2006, 03:55 PM
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Reps: 17,483,847 (power: 17,493) | | Originally Posted by Poke For a Creationist to get a PhD in "one of the appropriate areas of study" from an accredited university is almost like a black man joining the KKK and trying to get to the top. Originally Posted by Willtor Godwin's Law! w00t!
Great one inappropriate response begats another. What's next? 
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27th June 2006, 04:26 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by vossler Great one inappropriate response begats another. What's next?
There's nothing inappropriate about my remark. Just like there's nothing inappropriate about Evolutionists ignoring the high degree of Evolutionist bigotry.
Anyone with an advanced degree knows how important professor recommendations are. If not for bigotry, why did biology Professor Michael Dini Texas Tech University at one time say he would not give a letter of recommendation to anyone who did not believe Evolution?
For that matter, why is criticism of Evolution de facto banned in every public school in America? |
27th June 2006, 04:47 PM
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Reps: 4,008 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by Poke There's nothing inappropriate about my remark. Just like there's nothing inappropriate about Evolutionists ignoring the high degree of Evolutionist bigotry.
Anyone with an advanced degree knows how important professor recommendations are. If not for bigotry, why did biology Professor Michael Dini Texas Tech University at one time say he would not give a letter of recommendation to anyone who did not believe Evolution?
For that matter, why is criticism of Evolution de facto banned in every public school in America?
Letters of recommendation can come from any professor, not Michael Dini. Just find another professor. One professor I that I will be asking a letter of recommendation for is an IDist. Do you think universities will care more that he's an IDer or that he has published tons of papers on mathematical biology. Beliefs don't matter, results do. If a Creationist does brilliant undergraduate research, he/she will go into a Ph.D. program, regardless of his/her beliefs.
As for your second point, should we also allow criticisms of Moon landings and allow teachers to teach Holocaust denial? Remember, I have yet to see one criticism of evolution by Creationists that is correct. Maybe you can prove me wrong. Please give me scientific evidence against evolution. Let's see how long it takes before people start whipping out, "No transitional fossils, 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, micro not macro, etc...."
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27th June 2006, 04:58 PM
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Reps: 5,472,665,518,922,035 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Poke Anyone with an advanced degree knows how important professor recommendations are. If not for bigotry, why did biology Professor Michael Dini Texas Tech University at one time say he would not give a letter of recommendation to anyone who did not believe Evolution?
Would you let a homosexual man pastor over you?
Personally I would have a problem with it. But it's still bigotry and I'm obviously a bigot for it.
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27th June 2006, 05:22 PM
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Reps: 3,244 (power: 13) | | Originally Posted by Poke If not for bigotry, why did biology Professor Michael Dini Texas Tech University at one time say he would not give a letter of recommendation to anyone who did not believe Evolution? Originally Posted by Michael Dini If you set up an appointment to discuss the writing of a letter of recommendation, I will ask you: "How do you account for the scientific origin of the human species?" If you will not give a scientific answer to this question, then you should not seek my recommendation.[]
The designated criteria for a letter of recommendation should not be misconstrued as discriminatory against anyone's personal beliefs. Rather, the goals of these requirements are to help insure that a student who wishes my recommendation uses scientific thinking to answer scientific questions.
from: Letters of Recommendation
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27th June 2006, 07:31 PM
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Reps: 18,889,155,825,852,136 (power: 18,889,155,825,864) | | Originally Posted by Poke For a Creationist to get a PhD in "one of the appropriate areas of study" from an accredited university is almost like a black man joining the KKK and trying to get to the top.
Only difference is: the former has happened. Take Kurt Wise or Nicolaas Rupke, for example. Both intelligent men who had the balls to put their faiths to the test and expand their minds. Now neither of them are fundie YECists.
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27th June 2006, 08:57 PM
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Reps: 70,872 (power: 86) | | Originally Posted by Poke For a Creationist to get a PhD in "one of the appropriate areas of study" from an accredited university is almost like a black man joining the KKK and trying to get to the top.
Really? Could you tell us what happened to you when you tried to get a PhD in a field of study related to evolutionary biology? |
28th June 2006, 12:39 AM
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Reps: 3,394 (power: 9) | | Originally Posted by TEBeliever Ken Ham seems to me a man of good intentions. One that upholds the literal account of Genesis and is a true believer. He is not a liar to say the least. Picky/Choosy? Maybe....
You're right, Ham (as well as the other AiG honchos) are of good intention, and on all accounts are true believers. They do not intentionally tell untruths.
However, his (and other AiG) attitude towards non-YECist Christians is appalling, and displays a profound lack of godly Christian maturity. I feel that he (and other AiG) have elevated themselves to the status of Christian leaders against the teaching of 1 Timothy and Titus regarding qualification for Christian leadership, and thus people who listen to him face the hazard of unsound and childish doctrine (while not having their salvation threatened). I personally believe that Paul's injunction to avoid divisive men may well apply to Ham (and other AiG).
I hold this opinion based on past subscription to AiG and ongoing monitoring of the AiG website. Of course, if anyone has evidence to prove me wrong, please speak up -- I'm willing to listen. |
28th June 2006, 03:53 AM
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