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Old 28th December 2002, 08:51 AM
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When is your sin forgiven?

Is your sin only forgiven when You have confessed your sin to God AND confessed your sin to the one you sinned against?

Does there have to be a thrid party involved when you sin?

Let's say, this being purely hypothetical, that I stole a beer from a store when I was a teenager and the owner never even noticed. Is that sin not forgiven unless I confess the sin to the owner?



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Your sins are forgiven past and present when one places his or her faith in God and becomes a Christian. If we had to remember all are sins to be forgiven then we would never be forgiven of ll of our sins. There wuld always be one we would forget. Actually there is a lot more that we forget. Also if we have unforgiven sin we can't go to heaven so we would not get into heaven if we had to confess all our sins before they would be forgiven. That is why I am glad that Christ died for all our sins past, present, and future.
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Your sins are forgiven as soon as your confess them to God and repent (turn away from them).
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IMHO, if we beleive we know our sins, we are not humble. The Thief next to Jesus on the cross knew 2 important things, one, He was a thief and two, He was not worthy. The important thing here is the "not worthy" part. We may know of a sin that needs forgivness but we can't know them all because we are not worthy because of our nature, not our sins. Sin is a symptom of the problem, not the problem. The problem is our nature.

Sure we should ask forgivness but also we must know who we are and why we are not worthy of salvation. There is not one single good thing I can do to make myself worthy, but I am forgiven anyway because God is Who He is all the time, every time and forever.

Our nature is forgiven if we humble ourselves and ask Jesus to lead my life as my Lord and my Savior. It's that simple, but the humble part trips a buch of people up.

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Receiving the spirit of God is a miracle, it's a gift given to those that have been allowed to see their lost condition and they cry out to the Lord: Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
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Thank you much.

So can you show me a verse or two that goes with this topic?

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Romans Chapter 8

I would suggest that you read it, pray about it and then read it again.

Sometimes it's better not to post a scripture because it can be taken out of context. Romans 8 will guide you much better than I can do by picking a piece of it to support some point.

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Re: When is your sin forgiven?

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Is your sin only forgiven when You have confessed your sin to God AND confessed your sin to the one you sinned against?

Does there have to be a thrid party involved when you sin?

Let's say, this being purely hypothetical, that I stole a beer from a store when I was a teenager and the owner never even noticed. Is that sin not forgiven unless I confess the sin to the owner?



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Hey O'mara.  Our (all people that were saved, are saved, will be saved) sins were forgiven when Christ died as the spotless Lamb.  Repentence is something that is a result of understanding that we've been forgiven.  It is not a means to obtain forgiveness.  For the most part when we ask for forgiveness we ask amiss.  Christ intercedes on our behalf.  Repentence is never the means.  It is always the result.

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Reformationist: Repentance as in 1 Peter 3:10,11?
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Reformationist: Repentance as in 1 Peter 3:10,11?
Okay.  What about it?
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There is much false theology on these boards and on this thread. BEWARE! Read and study the scriptures for yourselves.

Salvation isn't about making a one-time decision in the past, perhaps many years ago.
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