wow i read it because i dont have the realplayer...
wow... umm something to really think about when i see him again.
Thanks so much for this info!!!
Wow.. the last line was just not right at all...... placing a curse on people because they go against your ministry..... thats harsh and not right at all!!!!1
~Natsumi Lam~
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1 John 4: 1-6
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Also, many prophecies must be prayed into fulfillment by the church. If the church doesn't care enough to pray or thinks things will come to pass by being dropped on them from heaven, they are sadly mistaken.
*laughs* So you're saying that people prayed for the Jews to get carted off to slavery in 570 BC?
No offence, but don't be silly.
He made a specific prophet with a date.
Plus, why would someone pray for people to die!
That's just lunatic.
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John 1:1-2: - P66 + P75
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
"This will be the third time I am coming to you. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established."
Before something large should be believed this should follow and not of the same ministry. AKA Not Benny and His Second in command.
Say Benny and 2 other ministries not associated or who dont listen to his show. Then bring it yourself to God. Dont always depend on hear
~Natsumi laM~
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~ A Preparer of the Bride~
1 John 4: 1-6
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Last edited by NatsumiLam; 26th June 2006 at 06:00 PM.
The Lord led me to post a few verses here in reply..
Brought these to mind as I read through these comments..
Matthew 7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
We must be careful when we throw stones at someone.. We all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God..
If Benny Hinn is a false prophet.. then by his fruits we will know him.. and we must be careful not to throw stones at him or any other.. we must first check our own conscience before God... lest we are ourselves are in error..
Even David... did not lift his hand against Saul who at many opportunities tried to take his life... Saul was not following after God... yet he was anointed to be King by the word of the very Lord Himself.. This is what David said..
1 Samuel 24 :6 ((You can read more of the story in the same chapter and surrounding chapters))
6 He said to his men, "The LORD forbid that I should do such a thing to my master, the LORD's anointed, or lift my hand against him; for he is the anointed of the LORD."
Don't go to anything but the Word of God as your final wittness.. If Benny Hinn has strayed from his anointing.. it is Gods place to bring him down... not ours.. even if we disagree.. we must let the Lord fight against evil.... not us.. it is not our place to lift our hands.. voices or anything.. against the Lord's annointed..
I believe Benny Hinn is anointed of the Lord and the healings and numbers coming to salvation are fruits of his ministry.. and even if I am wrong.. The Lord will deal with him... I would rather fear the Lord then any man!!
God is the final authority on all things.. not mankind..
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
No we don't need to go to men to get healings, but the irony is, how many in the body of Christ, REALLY REALLY BELIEVE that God will heal people through them?
The number of people is increasing but it is still limited because there is still so much unbelief and doubt.
None of us are perfect, and we may not always agree with methods, we have to be so careful on how we judge.
Gosh Jesus spat on peoples eyes and tongues. Some of the old revivalists when they did healings punched people in the stomach. Todd Bentley has done similar.
I think we all need to be careful on how it is done, because if you read what these people right, a lot of the time they ask God "are you sure you want me to punch so and so" ya know? It's not how we as humans would do it, but Gods ways are not our ways!
If something is not of God, then who is it of? The devil. The occult counterfeits things yes, but how does the enemy get an idea on how to do things as a counterfeit? because they were originally something he saw happen in the Kingdom!
Healing is for each and every one of us for sure, and no we don't need to go to such men all the time, but for some that is where they will receive their healing. For others your toilet, your bathtub, your pastor, your elders, your mother, your father, your daughter, even your 3 yr old could pray for you. Ya know?
We are all called to go heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons.... It doesn't say "pray for those things to happen" it just says "do it!"
Anyways since this was a thread on Benny Hinn, LOL.. I guess I will stop talking!
But even Jesus/Yahushua said that in the end times there will be false prophets who do mighty miracles - and we know that Benny Hinn is a false prophet because all the prophecies he says that are from "the lord" and with a date haven't come true.
In the Bible, that gives him the title of a false prophet.
Whilst I agree with you that Yahuweh will deal with him, it doesn't help when Christians fall for a false prophets lies and actually end up encouraging him, when all christians should ignore him and let him and his false ministry fail.
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John 1:1-2: - P66 + P75
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
Whether Benny Hinn truly moves in the Spirit of God or not is a matter between him and His Maker.
REGARDLESS, I do believe some are healed at his events - but not because of his or anyone else's healing ministry there - but rather because it is God's Sovereign Will to heal or not to heal.
God knows the hearts and circumstances of EVERY person that attends a Benny Hinn service, just as He knows our's at all times. And so, if He wants to heal someone at a Benny Hinn service, HE WILL DO IT, regardless of "who" is ministering.
(And, if He wants to heal someone while they are outside praying alone in a grassy field ... HE WILL DO THAT ALSO! PRAISE THE LORD!)
Almighty God does not need a man or woman thru which to accomplish His healings ... but I think sometimes makes them available to us, to make it easier for us to receive His healing.
Hmmm <scratches head> had no idea it would go this far, but some great info has been put on the table for me to believe that Hinn is, probably still a christian, but definately off his rocker.
Would that we were all that "off our rockers." We'd have to build church after church after church to hold the harvest of souls! God bless, prosper and protect Benny.
Originally Posted by semperfi_psalm121
Hmmm <scratches head> had no idea it would go this far, but some great info has been put on the table for me to believe that Hinn is, probably still a christian, but definately off his rocker.
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