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20th June 2006, 12:54 PM
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20th June 2006, 01:04 PM
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Reps: 141,033,213 (power: 0) | | | Its really as simple as Galatians 1:8 If anyone, even an "angel", comes preaching anything different from this word, it is not from God.
The lds doctrine is way different in many ways, from God's word.
They can claim the "real" truth was unknown til they had it, but anyone can claim that.
Its simple deception, they are deceived.
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it may be your opinion,and simple for you,but posts like this can be considered baiting.
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20th June 2006, 01:47 PM
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Reps: 523 (power: 0) | | | Its really as simple as Galatians 1:8 If anyone, even an "angel", comes preaching anything different from this word, it is not from God.
I second that. We know that from God's Word, that He always was, is now and always will be God. He graciously gave us His Word, His Son for our Salvation and His Spirit for our Comforter and guidance. The Bible is His Word and He states that nothing will prevail against it and that it is forever Truth. It has been the standard for all the years it has been in existence from the early writings to the Bibles we have today. All of our truth comes from within these pages and His Holy Spirit that dwells within us testifies to this.
To say that the Bible is true as long as it is correctly translated casts a shadow of doubt about the truth of it. To say that a restoration was needed is casting doubts upon the body of Christ, meaning the people for we know that the body is not made up of corporations and buildings. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life; anything else is as the writer above states.
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20th June 2006, 03:07 PM
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Please be careful about the claims you make,so you do not offend
other members.
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__________________ "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
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20th June 2006, 03:36 PM
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Reps: 69,818,255,088,841,400 (power: 69,818,255,088,865) | | | "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come..." is what I was hoping to discuss. What does this phrase, "Spirit of Truth," mean? To whom does it refer? Is he a Person or does this phrase merely mean "correct teaching?"
__________________ The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent.
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Salvation is worth working for. It is worth a man's going round the world on his hands and knees, climbing its mountains, crossing its valleys, swimming its rivers, going through all manner of hardship in order to attain it. But we do not get it in that way. It is to him who believes.
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20th June 2006, 04:05 PM
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if a person has the spirit of truth with them, even the most ordinary, stuttered testimony will strike the heart. |
20th June 2006, 04:14 PM
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Reps: 20,732,757,815,753,600 (power: 20,732,757,815,773) | | Originally Posted by Phoebe Ann "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come..." is what I was hoping to discuss. What does this phrase, "Spirit of Truth," mean? To whom does it refer? Is he a Person or does this phrase merely mean "correct teaching?"
My understanding is that the Spirit of truth refers to the Holy Ghost. If it only meant correct teaching, then "he" would not be used to speak of the Spirit of truth. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13
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20th June 2006, 04:24 PM
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Reps: 22,093,396,603,335,756 (power: 22,093,396,603,355) | | Originally Posted by Phoebe Ann "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come..." is what I was hoping to discuss. What does this phrase, "Spirit of Truth," mean? To whom does it refer? Is he a Person or does this phrase merely mean "correct teaching?"
My understanding is that is a reference to the holy ghost. |
20th June 2006, 05:41 PM
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Reps: 69,818,255,088,841,400 (power: 69,818,255,088,865) | | Originally Posted by Blackmarch My understanding is that is a reference to the holy ghost.
Are you in agreement with the majority of LDS on this? Or is this your personal view that disagrees with official LDS teaching? Personal views are not much help to non-LDS who may happen to read these threads.
__________________ The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent.
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Salvation is worth working for. It is worth a man's going round the world on his hands and knees, climbing its mountains, crossing its valleys, swimming its rivers, going through all manner of hardship in order to attain it. But we do not get it in that way. It is to him who believes.
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20th June 2006, 05:45 PM
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Reps: 69,354,585,041,534 (power: 69,354,585,059) | | Originally Posted by Phoebe Ann Are you in agreement with the majority of LDS on this?
Yes, he is. Originally Posted by Phoebe Ann Or is this your personal view that disagrees with official LDS teaching?
No. It is in agreement with official LDS teaching.
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