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13th June 2006, 12:02 PM
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It is an interesting excursion into critical analysis of The Gospels... I particularly the discussion of Josephus and the RUSSIAN translation of Jewish Wars as it differs from the Greek. | 
13th June 2006, 03:28 PM
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17th June 2006, 07:21 AM
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17th June 2006, 08:44 AM
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The portrayal of "Jesus as Insurgent Leader"begs a comparison between the Roman occupation of that land and the current American occupation of Iraq (and, of course, the even more heinous Zionist occupation of Palestine).
If Jesus were in Iraq today, fighting for the poor, Bush would be vowing to hunt him down and kill him and damn the cost.
And....... if he were in Palestine, the more efficient Zionists would have killed him and his entire family by now (and bulldozed their homes for good measure).
History is not only written by the winning side......it repeats itself. | 
17th June 2006, 10:51 AM
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It is an interesting excursion into critical analysis of The Gospels... I particularly the discussion of Josephus and the RUSSIAN translation of Jewish Wars as it differs from the Greek.
i read quite a bit of it.
very interesting read KCDAD. i liked how they put all the references on there as well.
makes me curious to read The Gospel of Thomas (i have it, but i'm a procrastinator with reading.) makes me also curious about the Q document and the Jesus Seminar.
i'll try to read it again more, just after reading most of it, i had to take a break...only cause of the longevity of it  learned some new things in regards to the history of the time Christ lived.
thanks for the link
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18th June 2006, 01:00 AM
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-The site brings up that Jesus was executed on political, instead of religious, grounds. However, Jesus taught for a good while. The authorities had plenty of time. The Pharisees (the religious authorities) would not have hidden Him, but didn't bring Him before the Roman authorities until about the time He did that whole last supper/first communion bit. Perhaps He was bringing about a new form of worship that didn't go along with what the religious authorities agreed with?
However, the whole thing is long, not easy to read, and it's about five past midnight where I'm at, so I won't be commenting on the whole thing.
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19th June 2006, 07:13 PM
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The portrayal of "Jesus as Insurgent Leader"begs a comparison between the Roman occupation of that land and the current American occupation of Iraq (and, of course, the even more heinous Zionist occupation of Palestine).
If Jesus were in Iraq today, fighting for the poor, Bush would be vowing to hunt him down and kill him and damn the cost.
And....... if he were in Palestine, the more efficient Zionists would have killed him and his entire family by now (and bulldozed their homes for good measure).
History is not only written by the winning side......it repeats itself.
I guess the anti Jewish leader of Iran is sort of your hero, right? | 
19th June 2006, 08:12 PM
|  | Senior Veteran 64  | | Join Date: 19th April 2002 Location: Arizona
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tulc(I'll try again later) 
me too. I selected the whole document and copied into word, then selected all again and cleared the formatting which left me with a nice easy to read document.
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19th June 2006, 08:37 PM
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19th June 2006, 09:07 PM
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Reps: 1,178 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by elman I guess the anti Jewish leader of Iran is sort of your hero, right? Foon Pontificates:
Don't get too confused, El......I'm against the murderers and thieves.
Race and religion have nothing to do with it.
Zionists invaded Palestine.
Americans invaded Iraq.
I would have been against the invading Romans, too......just like Jesus. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |