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11th June 2006, 05:11 PM
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11th June 2006, 05:16 PM
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Reps: 9,274,249 (power: 9,291) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice so just to clarify, you guys dont know what causes gravity, or how it works, but you know the laws of it??
yup. A law is a description of what something does. You don't need to know how it does it, to describe what it does.
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11th June 2006, 05:34 PM
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Reps: 68,255 (power: 86) | | Originally Posted by Hydra009 *pictures a scientist busily working in a lab who suddenly screams "Oh noes! Gravity is a fraud!" and then his entire lab is sucked into outer space* 
__________________ Oh, cut the bleeding heart crap, will ya? We've all got our switches, lights, and knobs to deal with, Striker. I mean, down here there are literally hundreds and thousands of blinking, beeping, and flashing lights, blinking and beeping and flashing - they're *flashing* and they're *beeping*. I can't stand it anymore! They're *blinking* and *beeping* and *flashing*! Why doesn't somebody pull the plug!
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11th June 2006, 05:49 PM
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Reps: 9,333,177,600,012,484 (power: 9,333,177,600,021) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice
that formula explains nothing
who made it? why is it in that order? who put it in that order? who decided what should be included into it??? how can it be sicentifically tested??? hmmmm
In other words, you don't even know basic math. A*B=B*A
If you prefer to write it down as e.g.
F=M1*Gm*M2/r^2, then that's exactly the same.
And just wondering: how do you evolutionsts explain gravity???
Is the creationist explaination any different?
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11th June 2006, 06:03 PM
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Reps: 596,997,442,336,088 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice if you are unable to defend your theory of gravity then please dot not post in this thread, this is for debate on teh subject and and i want to see evidence that supports "gravity" so far you two havent backed up your beliefs
Here is the thing about people like you. If we did post evidence, you would claim it is illogical and untrue and claim you are right and i am wrong, just like every other fundie on this planet. Grow up. |
11th June 2006, 06:06 PM
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Reps: 596,997,442,336,088 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice so just to clarify, you guys dont know what causes gravity, or how it works, but you know the laws of it??
We know mass causes gravity, we just dont know how. I think that mass causes depressions in space, like if you were to take a plate sheet of rubber and suspend it, then put a weight on it. If you pour some beads on that rubber sheet, then all the beads are going to come to that point, but if there is a bigger point there is a higher chance they will go to that point, but some will still go to the orriginal weight. Orbit works when one of those beads gets trapped in the round curvature of the slope and keeps going around and around and around. |
11th June 2006, 06:08 PM
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Reps: 596,997,442,336,088 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Tomk80 Not necessarily Mystman. Go to America and spend there half a year, talking with other Americans about there educational system. After that, you will realize that this kind of ignorance about science is not necessarily faked, but truly present if you neglect your schoolsystem long enough.
Remember that the next time a bunch of students go onto the streets to protest against further cuts in education and join them. That level of ignorance is what we're trying to prevent.
I am from America and I had a fairly decent sicetific education, although a lot of what I know came from my own thinking about it, then reading about it in research journals, scientific websites and now in college. |
11th June 2006, 06:11 PM
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Reps: 596,997,442,336,088 (power: 0) | | | Mod, could you please close this topic? It is just... stupid and the OP is irrational. |
11th June 2006, 06:20 PM
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Reps: 4,008 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by azmurath I am from America and I had a fairly decent sicetific education, although a lot of what I know came from my own thinking about it, then reading about it in research journals, scientific websites and now in college.
Yeah, but we're the minority. Most Americans have a poor to average science education. Most Americans don't care about science or think its not important. Then there's a few Americans that actually want to worsen American's science education system (IDer's and Creationists that try to actively change the science standards, and Republicans that cut grants for graduate students).
EDIT: added one more group that hurts America's science education
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11th June 2006, 06:41 PM
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Reps: 13,290 (power: 28) | | | Wow....this thread....just wow....questions that could be answered within 5 minutes of doing your own research.
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