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14th June 2006, 03:11 PM
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Reps: 129 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice heres what i think is true. there is no gravity because it doesnt make sense and ive pointed out the reasons why.
people like you and me fall to earth under the weight of our sins and thats what keeps us on the planet. when you die, if you have accepted Christ, your sins will disappaear and you will rise up into heaven. if you however lived a life of sin, when you die the burden of your sins will pull you further down into hell
Impossible. Impossible. No human could be this uninformed. If this is for real it's no longer funny; if it's a parody, it is brilliant!
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14th June 2006, 03:44 PM
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Reps: 1,373 (power: 8) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice 1. why dont you ask them??? im not an "astronaut", im just telling you how it works
2. trees and rocks dont have souls so they arent going anywhere. as for material objects that man uses, they fall to earth because they have received sin through man by touch
god never intended man to fly this is why we are born with original sin. this is why angels can fly, they have no sins at all
3. my avatar is to emphasize the highjacking of christmas in this nation
1. Maybe not an astronaut but certainly a space cadet.
2. You still have a problem with leaves.
2a. Are bats and birds angels then.
2c/3.isn't the guy behind the mask then an angel that sinned (pride) | 
14th June 2006, 03:47 PM
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Reps: 1,373 (power: 8) | | Originally Posted by urbanxy Impossible. Impossible. No human could be this uninformed. If this is for real it's no longer funny; if it's a parody, it is brilliant!
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I,m afraid it may be for real, and it isn't funny, rather seems like the attitudes of the dark ages. | 
14th June 2006, 03:56 PM
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14th June 2006, 04:13 PM
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Reps: 4,133 (power: 10) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice people like you and me fall to earth under the weight of our sins and thats what keeps us on the planet. when you die, if you have accepted Christ, your sins will disappaear and you will rise up into heaven. if you however lived a life of sin, when you die the burden of your sins will pull you further down into hell
Where is the Scriptural support for that ideology of yours: the weight of our sins [...] keeps us on the planet? Paul wrote that the wages of sin is death, not heaviness. Waterfalls are not sinful. Rain and snow are not sinful. Leaves from trees are not sinful. Yet all these things fall. But if they are sinful, how come helium- or hydrogen-filled balloons do not fall? Why does warmer air rise?
These are not questions for religion. These are questions for science.
I think I'm done with this thread. If this has been a troll, consider me fooled. If this has not been a troll, I really don't know what else to say to you. | 
14th June 2006, 04:56 PM
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Did Jesus, Moses, Abraham, or some other prophet say that gravity is a fallacy?
I would suggest to be more careful of what you declare as untrue while waving the banner of your lord, fore to say “this thing is false” when it is, in fact, true, is a lie. Surely you don’t believe that Jesus stood for deception. If so, then please list which are the deceptions he represented and which were the truths.
If Jesus stood for no deception, then when would he stand proudly by the man who says that this thing is a lie when it is indeed not a lie? Unless you believe that you are sinless, say nothing of what is not true unless it very directly contradicts your lord’s teachings and you have gone to great lengths to ensure that you have not misunderstood those teachings. Spend more time on declaring what IS true by your certain knowledge that you would stand alone and gladly present as fact before God Himself, fore with every word you preach, this is what you face.
How often must a man look upon a Christian and hear a lie and still try to think that Christianity stands only for truth? Jesus did not say that 2+2=4, but do you believe that it would be his way to proclaim it to be a lie merely because such was not written in scriptures nor a part of his teachings?
When something is not understood, it cannot be judged as truth nor lie. Why do you so willingly rush into making such judgments and risk being one of the many who lie for the glory of Jesus yet bring shame to his name? Would you want someone to represent you and your cause when they not only had so little understanding of you, but also professed that many things were lies merely because they didn’t understand them at the time?
Try to remember, "If you are not with me, then you are against me." Even if you quite innocently misunderstand, you become an opponent until you correct that misunderstanding. You cannot correct your error or sin if you do not look for it. What could be more important for you than to very, very carefully ensure that you are truly being exactly as your Lord asked of you? Examining yourself takes time away from trying to represent Jesus and God while converting, preaching, and correcting others. Are you too impatient to ensure your steps?
How easy it is to say, “They are wrong.” How easy it is to become the liar staining the name of your lord who never proclaimed that such was wrong. The same truth can be understood in different ways just as the same truth can be spoken in different languages.
I recommend that you spend far more time checking into what is true concerning your understandings of your lord and less on what others might misunderstand of theirs. | 
14th June 2006, 06:14 PM
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Reps: 9,274,249 (power: 9,291) | | Originally Posted by AngryNotice heres what i think is true. there is no gravity because it doesnt make sense and ive pointed out the reasons why.
people like you and me fall to earth under the weight of our sins and thats what keeps us on the planet. when you die, if you have accepted Christ, your sins will disappaear and you will rise up into heaven. if you however lived a life of sin, when you die the burden of your sins will pull you further down into hell
Happy, happy insanity.
__________________ Tom 'What luck for rulers, that men do not think.' -Ascribed to Adolf Hitler- `Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.' -Through the Looking Glas by Lewis Caroll- Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. --Aaron Levenstein | 
14th June 2006, 07:37 PM
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(Btw if it's a joke, it's a damn good one) | 
14th June 2006, 11:40 PM
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15th June 2006, 02:52 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by jwu In other words, you don't even know basic math. A*B=B*A
If you prefer to write it down as e.g.
F=M1*Gm*M2/r^2, then that's exactly the same.
And just wondering:
Is the creationist explaination any different?
i would like to make a commentary on your signature about thermo. there is a giant external source supplying earth with energy. it's called the sun. you see, thermo only applies to a closed system. the earh is not a closed system, we are, quite literally, powered by the sun. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |